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re: Is Patrick Peterson one of the more overrated players in the NFL?

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Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
For some reason you're very defensive about this.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Dude is the Taylor Mays of cornerbacks.


I agree that he is overrated, but this is a bit much
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
He was also the 83 best overall player in 2012
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
It's about as good as an aggie can muster.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
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It's the best grading system we've got. Do you disagree?


If by "we" you mean average Joe fan, I guess I would probably be ok with that. But it's like giving you 100 data points when 10 would be enough to get you to the same result.

But for real talent evaluaters, for every 10 metrics PFF establishes and uses on there site, 8 are worthless. Just white noise. Primarily b/c each play in a game has so many spurious variables associated with a given positions actual responsibilities on that play.

A DE sets his edge, but misses a tackle and allows a 3 yard gain inside. In the film room, he did his job. Per PFF's metrics and grading system, he didn't make the play, or didn't acieve what that metric is looking for. It's inherently flawed b/c the metrics can not account for certain aspects of scheme and responsibility.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
five pages so far

nice
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
I can't imagine starting a thread about a former auburn player on a Thursday at 3 pm. We're all up in his head.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
Why am I defenskve? Because I am posting information from Pff?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
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fricker - tricking those NFL scouts - always thought he was a trickster - so, how long have you been an NFL scout?



What do you think an NFL scout is? A retired player who makes a lot less money than you think to watch football. They aren't these untouchable geniuses. And oftentimes, scouts focus on parts of a player's game, believing that the player can fix his weaknesses and improve the frequency of his good plays. Peterson hasn't done that.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
You'll get a lot of bites with good bait.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Would you make this thread about him if he didn't go to LSU?
Would you hate Cam Newton as much if he didn't go to Auburn?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
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Would you hate Cam Newton as much if he didn't go to Auburn?


Not at all. I'm a big Jason Campbell fan.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
Because NFL scouts have never been wrong and an NFL team has never handed out a bad contract
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
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So instead of using every year he has been in the league, you use only 1. Why?

2011 PFF ranking - CB #102
2012 PFF ranking - CB # 16
2013 PFF ranking - CB # 14
2014 PFF ranking - CB # 69
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
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You'll get a lot of bites with good bait.
Pro Football Focus is good "bait?"
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
I hate cam because he's a prick, not because of where he went to school.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
You've put a decent amount of work into this troll thread.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
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2011 PFF ranking - CB #102
2012 PFF ranking - CB # 16
2013 PFF ranking - CB # 14
2014 PFF ranking - CB # 69
Interdasting...

Average: 50.25
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127684 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
Yea because he's a tPOS that plays in the NFC South.
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