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re: Is Joey Votto a Hall of Famer?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:44 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:44 pm to LSUBoo
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Todd Helton likely gets in this year or next. I don't think Votto does, but he's about as close to the line as you can get.
Biggio is one of the worst HOF additions in the last 20 years
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:45 pm to HangmanPage1
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He’s Hall of Pretty Good.
your mom is Hall of pretty slutty
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:42 pm to barry
Love the effort in stating your case but if we are all being honest none of those 4 belong in the Hall of Fame. You could compare 100 different hitters with somewhat similar numbers and argue it all day. That alone tells me they don't belong. Those that truly belong aren't argued over. They just get in.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:45 pm to lsufanva
quote:what
Those that truly belong aren't argued over. They just get in.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:08 am to Undertow
Ugghh. I don't know. This will be a stats vote. Didn't win much. Had a couple awesome years. Quietly an OBP machine. Kind of just...there. Nothing really historical.
There's probably 25 people I'd put in before I even think about this guy.
There's probably 25 people I'd put in before I even think about this guy.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:01 am to DiamondDog
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Quietly an OBP machine. Kind of just...there. Nothing really historical.
Do you even watch baseball, he was easily considered the best hitter in baseball for almost a decade. He has an MVP and should have a second
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:21 am to barry
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yes, now allow me to destroy all the shitty 1950 takes on this thread one by one.
You some kind of analytics queer?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:32 am to barry
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Biggio is one of the worst HOF additions in the last 20 years
And that's relevant to Votto's case how exactly?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:51 am to Undertow
By today's standards I would say yes, but the original standards the HOF was built on and that I think should be the standard still....no.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:06 am to Undertow
It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Above Average
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:22 am to barry
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342 HR isn't tremendous, but he's top 30 all time for 1B, so no slouch.
Woah he’s top 30 all time for an entire position.
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but he's not a longevity play
Wtf you mean by that? He’s been an everyday player for almost 15 years.
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His career slugging with RISP is 16th ALL TIME. Higher than Mantle, Musial, Mays, Griffey, Miggy, Arod and on and on. Want to know how great a hitter is? How often is he getting walked with RISP? Here is the career top 5 all-time BB/PA with RISP. 1) Barry Bonds 2) Ted Williams 3) Babe Ruth 4) Mickey Mantle 5) Joey fricking Votto
Please don’t try to compare him with any of the players again. They’re some of the greatest players of all time. They’re in a completely different galaxy than Votto.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:35 am to LSUBoo
Nothing, I just was feeling feisty last night
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:36 am to grizzlylongcut
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Please don’t try to compare him with any of the players again. They’re some of the greatest players of all time. They’re in a completely different galaxy than Votto
I’m not comparing, it’s just a straight up facts, sorry.
It denies this myth that Votto was just some sort of walk only guy who didn’t hit when it mattered.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:13 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:18 am to barry
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Biggio is one of the worst HOF additions in the last 20 years
Here's the attention you're looking for.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:20 am to barry
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Do you even watch baseball, he was easily considered the best hitter in baseball for almost a decade
Anyone with two eyes and a pulse knows the two best hitters in beisbol for the 2010s, and Votto ain't one of 'em.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:22 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:25 am to grizzlylongcut
quote:his peak WAR is comparable to other HOF first basemen
Wtf you mean by that?
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:26 am to sorantable
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Do people really still use this word unironically?
Bro you’re on a Deep South message board. They’ll catch up in another 15-20 years, as is tradition.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:26 am to barry
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It denies this myth that Votto was just some sort of walk only guy who didn’t hit when it mattered.
Nobody thinks he’s some kind of walk only guy. If you’ve watched any amount of baseball in the past 15 years you know he’s a great hitter.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:27 am to Tornado Alley
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Anyone with two eyes and a pulse knows the two best hitters in beisbol for the 2010s
Trout and Cano
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:30 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Trout and Cano
You got one correct.
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