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re: Is it Realistic that an NIL contract REQUIRE players to play in ALL games?

Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:50 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20566 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:50 am to
The most realistic solution is for the NFL to start an under 21 league so there is a market established for the kids that want to be professionals. Or just a developmental league.

College football deserves to have their own rules and standards. It’s an amateur league that shouldn’t have so much internal pressure based on profit incentives. It will never be an efficient market because it was never intended to be.

The things that really sucks about this, is that college football is obviously the best path, the best deal for these kids. If it wasn’t, one of these other leagues would have been viable by now. The revenue ultimately comes from alumni and others that support the individual teams, not the sport itself.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20566 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:25 pm to
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The only problem is people caring about bowls that don’t matter.


I’m so tired of hearing this. It’s such surface level thinking.

Clearly, these games DO matter to people. It’s a pretty popular topic of discussion, if you haven’t noticed.

They matter to fans, they matter to coaches, they matter for individual and team records. They only don’t seem to matter to some players, and the numb skulls that are enabling them by repeating this line. Why are these game’s different than others? If you can justify skipping your bowl, you can justify skipping any other game.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
5009 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:30 pm to
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The only problem is people caring about bowls that don’t matter.


Oh, you mean the 90% of football players who will never be pros, their families, and the fans of the 110 teams that are never going to win a national championship? You are the same assholes that bitch about jersey number traditions.
Go watch the NFL.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
29313 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:33 pm to
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The only problem is people caring about bowls that don’t matter.


Yeah it really sucks to watch your team play one last time before the season ends.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20566 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Any school that doesn't have restrictions or guidelines will get robbed blind. I heard Mascona talking about Heard's NIL and if he can be believed.


And moscona was one of the idiots championing NIL, because the players deserve to get paid. But now people are finally realizing that the “players” aren’t actually getting paid, they are paid for what they do when they are not playing. Which, beyond maybe 4-5 individuals across all college athletics, is not really worth anything.

So now we are stuck in this inefficient market of players expecting payment with the regulatory body handcuffed with lawsuits when they attempt to regulate it. And morons like moscona are to dumb to realize they never even understood what they were advocating.
Posted by Stropdaddy
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
293 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:41 pm to
Changes are coming. This is out of control. I look for the IRS to step in and get their part. Flashing free money and what some of these people are doing, Antitrust suits will probably show up too. Heck, even the NFL has limits/caps on income
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
2075 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:46 pm to
I agree. We should have two playoffs in college football.

One for Power 5 or whatever top tier conferences….and on for lower level conferences.

Use the bowl games for playoff sites and forget the rest.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4669 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:49 pm to
Now that the genie as already out of the bottle, I can only see things getting worse with NIL, because players and those educating them are all learning that everything is on their side from a legal perspective.
Posted by NYT57
Northern NY
Member since Jan 2023
77 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:52 pm to
“They haven't even figured out how to stop teams from faking injuries to stop the clock or slow down an up-tempo offense. By the end of the season, everyone is nicked up at least a little, They will find a doctor to advise them not to play. “

All I ask is that they give a credible Oscar winning performance. Also, I love the irony of a Lane Kiffen coached team using this strategy.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20566 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Agreed. It’s the most meaningless “postseason” in all of sports. The players just finally figured that out. Plus, it’s a great example of more is not better.


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But, ESPN saw bowls as an opportunity to create programming


It’s like you have all the information you need, but can’t put it together. It’s not meaningless if it is profitable, the players that are most interested in seeing a share of the profit are making them actually meaningless.

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But they’ll soon find the expanded playoff will be great!


With larger conferences that cannot even play eachother much less out of conference games, and no bowl games to judge those conferences against each other, how are we going to avoid shitty matchups? How are we ensuring that the best teams get in?

People don’t like change, you are right. They especially don’t like when things they like get changed, without explaining why they may like it more.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
2113 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:22 pm to
This … fans can scream on message boards until they’re purple in the face because these genies are not going back in their bottles, because aside from Tommy Tuberville who’s not exactly objective the legal and legislative powers of the United States of America are universally and bipartisanly on the players’ side.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77885 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Imagine if the NFL teams not in the playoffs would play a random game at end of the season?


And half the NFL games in the last few weeks have no playoff implications and are therefore “meaningless”
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77885 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Agreed. It’s the most meaningless “postseason” in all of sports.

By this measure the bowl games except for the top handful were always “meaningless”. And if only playoff games have meaning now, then most regular season games are also “meaningless”.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1661 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Oh, you mean the 90% of football players who will never be pros, their families, and the fans of the 110 teams that are never going to win a national championship? You are the same assholes that bitch about jersey number traditions. Go watch the NFL.

Let the 90% you’re talking about play and quit being a butthurt bitch when the 10% opt out.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1569 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:46 pm to
Any NIL deal is between the player and the customer. Neither the school nor the NCAA are parties to the contract.
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
1907 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:47 pm to
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s great for the cities that host. Also a chance for fans to travel and enjoy. It does seem antiquated now.


What’s making it antiquated almost
As much if not more than the playoff is the rise of neutral site games in the first or second week of the season.

I know the people making money off of them won’t let them go, but if they moved back too opening games on campus, the bowl games would be more of that destination “treat” at the end of the year
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