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Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:34 pm to Gatorbait2008
Brad Stevens Top 5 Coach??? Only on Tigerdroppings 
You guys continue to impress, dude has won literally nothing in a shite conference.
Spo is a god compared to him.
You guys continue to impress, dude has won literally nothing in a shite conference.
Spo is a god compared to him.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:37 pm to hiltacular
Such an Atlanta sports fan thing to say
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:37 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I want to know the answer to this too.
Kerr is in the discussion, BUT why does he have to be #1?
Why is Kerr so highly thought of? And why is Luke Walton considered to be a good coach with such a brief career?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:39 pm to hendersonshands
what a life you live sir
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:40 pm to hiltacular
I agree. Stevens is good and we will certainly see, but top 5 already? FOH
vogel over bud? Meh
Bud will get penalized for not doing enough somehow while the same people will simultaneously say that the Hawks never have a chance at winning shite with their roster. Classic.
vogel over bud? Meh
Bud will get penalized for not doing enough somehow while the same people will simultaneously say that the Hawks never have a chance at winning shite with their roster. Classic.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:41 pm to Gatorbait2008
I'm not discussing GOAT, I think we're going to see a lot Kerr over the next decade or two.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:42 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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vogel over bud? Meh
Do elaborate please
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:43 pm to cornhat
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Why is Kerr so highly thought of?
Seriously?
quote:
And why is Luke Walton considered to be a good coach with such a brief career?
I don't think I have even seen anyone mention him
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:44 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
So y'all are mad that people think Stevens is great because he hasn't won anything and mad because people say that Bud isn't great because he hasn't won anything?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:45 pm to hendersonshands
I didn't say shite about Bud numbnuts. I think it is asinine to say Stevens is a better coach than Spo which is the topic at hand. You are the one that threw in some retarded ATL sports fan reference.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 11:57 pm to cornhat
If you coach for 2 years and win two titles by default you should be #1. You can play the what if game referring to talent but at the end of the day you gotta go off of results. Does he get credit for curry going from an all star to back to back MVP? What about greens progress? It's not all coaching a lot is natural development but you've got to give him credit for installing a system that maximizes the talent of his roster.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:20 am to hiltacular
quote:Most people are putting both Spo and Stevens in the top 5 since the "topic at hand" is top 5.
I think it is asinine to say Stevens is a better coach than Spo which is the topic at hand.
Regardless, Stevens is widely considered a great coach, between his time at Butler AND the improvements he's made at Boston. Mocking people who put him in the top 5 is a pretty ignorant reaction to a reasonable evaluation.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:40 am to jturn17
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Plus, he's been successful far longer than those 3. It's silly to put them ahead of Spoelstra.
Spoelstra isn't without his faults, but he's been successful for a long time. And that shouldn't be overlooked.
I try and look at it comparatively. If I give Spoelstra the current Blazers or Celtics squad, I don't see how he would do as well as either of them have. Thats sort of the dividing line for me.
He is a good coach, I don't think he is top 5 though.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:43 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
If you coach for 2 years and win two titles by default you should be #1. You can play the what if game referring to talent but at the end of the day you gotta go off of results. Does he get credit for curry going from an all star to back to back MVP? What about greens progress? It's not all coaching a lot is natural development but you've got to give him credit for installing a system that maximizes the talent of his roster.
Results do matter but other context is important. If we value results too much we come away arguing David Blatt is a top 5 coach for reaching the finals his first season and taking a 33 win team to 53 wins. Better then any guys who haven't made the finals.
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 12:51 am
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:48 am to NOLA Bronco
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If I give Spoelstra the current Blazers or Celtics squad, I don't see how he would do as well as either of them have.
Both squads are better than what he trotted out there tonight. He's only missed the playoffs once as Miami's coach, which was last season where they lost Bosh and Wade for majority of the season.
I mean look at the team he took to the postseason in his first season: LINK
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:48 am to NOLA Bronco
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By this logic David Blatt is one of the greatest coaches of all time for getting to the Finals his first year.
By this logic Blatt is a superior coach to Thibs, Stevens, Bud and Stotts. Which is ridiculous.
So we throw out what Phil did because of massive talent advantage?
Posted on 5/14/16 at 12:59 am to NOLA Bronco
quote:But it's a dividing line based on pure speculation without any objective facts to back it up. Say you want about the talent of Miami with the big three, but Spo's adjustment of the offense was a big reason they were so successful AND was ahead of the trend that teams like the Warriors and Cavs have emulated.
Thats sort of the dividing line for me.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 1:03 am to RTR America
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Both squads are better than what he trotted out there tonight. He's only missed the playoffs once as Miami's coach, which was last season where they lost Bosh and Wade for majority of the season.
I mean look at the team he took to the postseason in his first season: LINK
Bullshite. The Celtics squad is not better then what Miami has had under Spoelstra, practically ever.
And it is hard to miss the playoffs as any coach when your entire career has had a top 5 player at their peak until Lebron left in a subpar conference.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 1:07 am to NOLA Bronco
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The Celtics squad is not better then what Miami has had under Spoelstra, practically ever.
quote:
@MarcJSpearsESPN
Heat in a deciding game to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals with 2 rookies, an undrafted 2nd year player, no Whiteside, Bosh. Salute
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