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re: Is College football broken?

Posted on 1/10/23 at 5:56 am to
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 5:56 am to
Well said!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173560 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 5:58 am to
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The lack of parity is ridiculous. Hopefully, the expanded playoff will help.

Maybe in the long run

But I can't imagine watching that game and thinking we need to expand the playoffs
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37485 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:35 am to
The truth is that top notch talent overall is concentrated in Alabama, Georgia and Florida for the most part and schools like Bama, UGA,Clemson and even Auburn have a natural advantage. But, schools like OSU and PSU and even Pitt due to location have almost the same advantage because talent is located in Ohio and Western and Central PA as well.

SEC teams really leverage their resources and money for football more than other leagues. What gets me is Texas as a state. The money at UT, TAMU, etc dwarfs the SEC and the talent and population in Texas is comparable.

Out west it is different....mostly skill players coming out of SoCal. If you want QBs and receivers as well as DBs, California has a lot of them. Big burly bruising defensive players....not so much. Think about it, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud....all California kids who initially went east to get noticed.

However if the same 3-4 teams keep winning each year and you have some years where it is SEC vs SEC you will start to see a problem with big monied sponsors not paying as much for TV spots....why pay exorbitant money to essentially focus on one region of the country who is watching while everyone else is watching the NBA or NHL or Netflix / Prime?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15372 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:36 am to
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But I can't imagine watching that game and thinking we need to expand the playoffs


Nor should you. To say in a given year that there are four teams truly capable of winning it all is foolish. Look at the average margin of victories from the playoff/national championship games since CFP was implemented. They aren’t typically competitive ballgames.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36186 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:42 am to
Every year there are 2-3 NFL light teams and a bunch of college teams. The sport is in a terrible place.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32715 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:47 am to
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playoff or bust mentality.


Which this board has fully embraced.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71059 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:49 am to
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Hopefully, the expanded playoff will help.







What?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32715 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:51 am to
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Every year there are 2-3 NFL light teams and a bunch of college teams. The sport is in a terrible place.


It’ll eventually get to the point where schools will say “why bother to try and compete against these juggernauts?”
Posted by whowasbert
Member since Apr 2020
340 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:52 am to
I think one of the big issues is the way recruiting is now, along with the transfer portal. In the 2000’s teams like USC and Texas generally got the top talent in their states. Sure, you would occasionally have teams get a top recruit from the other side of the country, but it wasn’t common. Now you have the top SEC teams, OSU, and Clemson taking most of the elite talent from states like California and Texas.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 6:56 am
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36186 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:56 am to
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It’ll eventually get to the point where schools will say “why bother to try and compete against these juggernauts?”
I’m already there. I can only get so excited as an Arkansas fan knowing our ceiling is being the best of the second tier of teams. I would be fine with competing in a lesser division with programs like ours.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10285 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:57 am to
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The same handful of schools just continually dominate, eat up every top recruit, rinse & repeat.


It has always been this way. If you want attempts at parity, watch the NFL.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37485 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:58 am to
College football was far more entertaining and interesting under the old bowl set up. But big money came in and decimated it. First by putting up too many and then clamoring for a " true" national champion as though viewers and fans were getting jipped under the bowl system.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:17 am to
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nobody can compete with their resources


What do you mean by resources?
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
3672 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:26 am to
Done with college football. The 5 star stacking has boiled over to the point where we have a 65-7 final score National Championship. Sad.

College football has been dying fast in popularity. Unless you’re a Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, or UGA fan, there’s no point of watching if you have national championship hopes. Those teams nab all the top talent in the off-season with coaching and money.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10217 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:41 am to
Been broke
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9654 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 8:40 am to
I root for Iowa, which is a small state with two P5 programs. They have zero chance of ever competing for a national title. They are basically a small market team, with zero protections in place for small market teams.

There are no salary caps or draft orders. The best keep getting the best players and on and on and on.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32715 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:09 am to
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I’m already there. I can only get so excited as an Arkansas fan knowing our ceiling is being the best of the second tier of teams. I would be fine with competing in a lesser division with programs like ours.


Same here. Georgia Tech football has never been more irrelevant in this state than it is now, and Georgia is in a whole other stratosphere.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
16159 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:35 am to
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NFL roster has 53 guys and like 10 practice players. I don’t see why these college programs need 86 dudes with 10+ PWOs.


Public dollars vs private dollars
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:40 am to
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Caleb Williams


Is from Washington, DC.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16680 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:53 am to
What schools need to be good for it to not be broken? Because historically it's always been the same few schools winning for the most part.

Alabama
Ohio State
Texas
Georgia
Oklahoma
USC
Miami
Florida
Florida State
Notre Dame

There's obviously a few more, but it's a small percentage of the 130 that play FBS football.

I mean we aren't talking about Iowa State or Arizona State or Wisconsin. College football has always been dominated by a handful of teams and those teams just cycle through.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 9:56 am
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