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Interesting prose by Ed Daniels on the anniversary of the split. but....
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:06 am
Once again he leaves off the guilty 7 principals that gave us the play in class rule that created the bad blood for the split. Yet everytime he manages to call out the 2a and below schools that voted for it.... He needs to call out the people on his side of the street too....
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:40 am to choupiquesushi
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official newspaper of the archdiocese of New Orleans
Certainly no bias in that publication.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:45 am to Jim Rockford
quote:I know.... hence him never mentioning the players involved with the play in class rule. Also everyone that thought the privates could survive / thrive without the publics...needs to look at the attendance drop for select games....
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official newspaper of the archdiocese of New Orleans
Certainly no bias in that publication.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:56 am to choupiquesushi
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never mentioning the players involved with the play in class rule.
who are these people? I've lived out of state for a while now and don't know the story of how the split happened.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:58 am to saturday
quote:4 5A schools that were tired of losing to evangel, and were upset that some were talking about letting JC play 5a in football only and putting them in THEIR league... along with 3 4a schools that were tired of losing to JC and wanting to get rid of them..... It's not hard to figure out who those principals were. by looking at the brackets from back then.
who are these people? I've lived out of state for a while now and don't know the story of how the split happened.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:16 am to Jim Rockford
quote:They give Ed Daniels pretty much free rein. Mr. Brocato is more "biased" but Ed is usually more objective. Often enough, Ed writes about the Saints, LSU or Tulane. It seems he is the biggest critic/cheerleader for Tulane football.
Certainly no bias in that publication.
He equally praises and castigates and the CH leaves him be.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:20 am to choupiquesushi
I'm done worrying about the split... Championships don't matter anyway when you're playing to become the best.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:55 am to choupiquesushi
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Once again he leaves off the guilty 7 principals that gave us the play in class rule that created the bad blood for the split. Yet everytime he manages to call out the 2a and below schools that voted for it.... He needs to call out the people on his side of the street too....
Evangel and John Curtis ruined everything and there is guilt on both sides.
They made a mockery of 2A for years and all these dirt-poor north LA schools who have 400 kids over a 30-mile radius wee tired of having their best teams ever and losing 80-6 in the playoffs.
But that was the price you paid because you wouldn’t dare put Protestants in the sacred Catholic League.
Just spitballing here. How about no split but you’re forced to move up in football if you make it to the Dome?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:01 am to lsutigers1992
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Just spitballing here. How about no split but you’re forced to move up in football if you make it to the Dome?
Great idea, was voted on but public schools too scurred. Completely fair system used in Indiana. Each round of the playoffs, semi, championship, and title winner give you so many points. After 2 years if your team has reached that number, they move up. If a team moves up and doesn’t maintain a certain mark, they are relegated back to their rightful classification.
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:01 am to lsutigers1992
quote:uh they ran roughshod over dirt poor and wealthy south la schools too
They made a mockery of 2A for years and all these dirt-poor north LA schools who have 400 kids over a 30-mile radius wee tired of having their best teams ever and losing 80-6 in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:22 am to choupiquesushi
There is enough blame to go around for everyone. The split is awful for everyone. Rummel was the only Catholic League team to win a 5a state championship since the 80s in football and it only happened the year before the split. Private and Catholic School Principals\Aministrations have had several years to come up with an alternative association for themselves and at least improve the status quo, but the truth is they are too lazy and too fractured to actually sit down and come up with the resources and go through the process. They are continue to allow the LHSAA govern them even though we really aren’t part of it anymore except on paper. At this point we deserve the system that we have because we haven’t done anything to force any sort of change. If Ed wants something to happen he needs to start putting the administrations at the major Catholic Schools on blast.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:43 am to MetrySaint24
quote:the only privates that can walk away or the ones that do not use municipal stadiums.... bottom line too because of what happened in 2004 - the privates below 4a do not trust the 5a and 4a ones - at all...
Private and Catholic School Principals\Aministrations have had several years to come up with an alternative association for themselves and at least improve the status quo, but the truth is they are too lazy and too fractured to actually sit down and come up with the resources and go through the process. They are continue to allow the LHSAA govern them even though we really aren’t part of it anymore except on paper. At this point we deserve the system that we have because we haven’t done anything to force any sort of change. If Ed wants something to happen he needs to start putting the administrations at the major Catholic Schools on blast
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:32 pm to lsutigers1992
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Evangel and John Curtis ruined everything and there is guilt on both sides.
This problem can be fixed today. Bring everyone back together but require the private schools to open their books. The problem is the public and private don't play by the same set of rules. Public schools have to follow all of these rules in regards to grades, attendance zones and so on and so on. The private schools are not bound by any rules what so ever. They can recruit and give scholarships to anyone anywhere but yet want to bitch about things being unfair.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:36 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:if you think publics don't do the same you are hiding under a rock
Public schools have to follow all of these rules in regards to grades, attendance zones and so on and so on. The private schools are not bound by any rules what so ever
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:59 pm to MetrySaint24
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we really aren’t part of it anymore except on paper
This is comical to me. The LHSAA is, has been, and will continue to be, greatly influenced by a small group of Catholic League proponents. I hate the split, but your assessment is totally disingenuous imho. There is TONS of blame to go around, but playing the "poor pitiful me" card actually ranks below the "I'll take my ball and head to the house" (aka...the "new" association) drama.
My proposal...
1. Go back to 4 classifications
2. Use the power ratings to determine the top 4 in each classification. Have them play as a bracket based on classification. For example, in round 1, the top 4A seed would play the 4th seed from 4A. 2 will play 3. The winners would advance to the quarters, the losers are relegated to their respective classification's playoff structure. Eventually, The top team in each of the four classifications will face off in the state semifinals. Whomever wins out will be the LHSAA GRAND champion.
3. Set up playoff brackets for each of the other classifications (32 schools in round 1, 16 in 2, 8 in 3, 4 plus the two relegated teams from the "grand final division" quarterfinals =6, 3 plus the one relegated team from the "grand final division" semifinals =4, winners meet in the classification final).
Basically, here are the nuts and bolts:
-36 schools make the playoffs per classification meaning that those 0-10 schools have no shot.
-the "smaller schools" still get "a trophy" if they win their classification
-three of the top four schools per classification based on PR are rewarded with a "relegation" feature.
-a "TRUE" state champion is determined
-there is a possibility of playing 6 games (a maximum of 8 schools across the four classifications COULD potentially play 6 playoff games IF all of the relegated teams were to lose in their first game within the classification).
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:00 pm to choupiquesushi
I suspect he is also upset that the top notch talent that JC, SA, and other private schools recruited are now going to programs outside of Louisiana where there is a better caliber of opponent. Similar to what has happened in basketball is taking place in football and Louisiana can't attract these top flight kids anymore.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:06 pm to MrLSU
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I suspect he is also upset that the top notch talent that JC, SA, and other private schools recruited are now going to programs outside of Louisiana where there is a better caliber of opponent. Similar to what has happened in basketball is taking place in football and Louisiana can't attract these top flight kids anymore.
why would anyone be upset by that if it brings certain schools back to the pack?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:Didn't Shaw get in a bunch of trouble years back because they got caught giving "financial aid" to some football players that basically equated to an athletic scholarship? Then their coach left and ended up at West Jeff.
The private schools are not bound by any rules what so ever. They can recruit and give scholarships to anyone anywhere but yet want to bitch about things being unfair.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:13 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:It is legal to give aid, under some set guidelines.. shaw is not the only one to get hammered.
Didn't Shaw get in a bunch of trouble years back because they got caught giving "financial aid" to some football players that basically equated to an athletic scholarship? Then their coach left and ended up at West Jeff.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:15 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:the facts reveal otherwise..
The LHSAA is, has been, and will continue to be, greatly influenced by a small group of Catholic League proponents
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