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I'm seeing way too many commentators giving Bill Belichick a pass
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:20 am
Though to Shannon Sharpe's credit, he's criticizing Belichick and his GM abilities. All Brady needed was weapons and that's all Brady was asking for. Not only did Belichick refuse to give him the weapons he needed, he also refused to acknowledge Brady as a vital cog in his machine - which I think is downright selfish considering how long the two men had been working together.
Despite the fact that Brady won a Super Bowl his first year away from Belichick and the Patriots, I feel like the jury is still out on whether or not it was all Brady, mostly Brady, or partially Brady when it comes to the question of who created the Patriots dynasty. But I think we can all agree that Brady was a BIG factor in New England's success - and apparently that's all Brady wanted Belichick to acknowledge but Belichick, in his arrogance and stubborness, couldn't do that.
I think we can all agree that Brady is a better GM than Belichick is because it was Brady who convinced Arians to sign Gronk, Brown, and Fournette. All three of them scored touchdowns in the game on Sunday night and none of them were with the Buccaneers last year.
Despite the fact that Brady won a Super Bowl his first year away from Belichick and the Patriots, I feel like the jury is still out on whether or not it was all Brady, mostly Brady, or partially Brady when it comes to the question of who created the Patriots dynasty. But I think we can all agree that Brady was a BIG factor in New England's success - and apparently that's all Brady wanted Belichick to acknowledge but Belichick, in his arrogance and stubborness, couldn't do that.
I think we can all agree that Brady is a better GM than Belichick is because it was Brady who convinced Arians to sign Gronk, Brown, and Fournette. All three of them scored touchdowns in the game on Sunday night and none of them were with the Buccaneers last year.
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:22 am to RollTide1987
Saints should have booted Drew and signed Brady
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
The Bucs without Brady and with a QB that threw a lot of interceptions but also a ton of TDS were 7-9.
The Pats without Brady and a bunch of Covid holdouts on defense and with a QB that wasn’t as productive as Tampa Bay Winston went 7-9
You could argue the NFC south is better but 2/4 teams were pretty bad. Does he have better weapons? Sure. Are the Patriots terrible? No. You need at least average QB play and their gamble on Cam didn’t pay off.
The Pats without Brady and a bunch of Covid holdouts on defense and with a QB that wasn’t as productive as Tampa Bay Winston went 7-9
You could argue the NFC south is better but 2/4 teams were pretty bad. Does he have better weapons? Sure. Are the Patriots terrible? No. You need at least average QB play and their gamble on Cam didn’t pay off.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:31 am to RollTide1987
quote:Of course Brady was a big part
Patriots, I feel like the jury is still out on whether or not it was all Brady, mostly Brady, or partially Brady when it comes to the question of who created the Patriots dynasty. But I think we can all agree that Brady was a BIG factor in New England's success - and apparently that's all Brady wanted Belichick to acknowledge but Belichick, in his arrogance and stubborness, couldn't do that.
Think about this: In Bradys last two Super Bowls, his opponents scored ZERO touchdowns
Let that marinate in your brain. Winning in a 22 player sport takes alot more than a single entity
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:40 am to RollTide1987
I remember a couple of years ago some posters were saying the Pats made the wrong decision on Garappolo. Some thought they were supposed to keep him long term for the future and to let Brady go.
Bad takes like this are the reason I keep coming back to this place.
Bad takes like this are the reason I keep coming back to this place.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:43 am to QJenk
quote:Umm, that looks like it would have been the right decision
I remember a couple of years ago some posters were saying the Pats made the wrong decision on Garappolo. Some thought they were supposed to keep him long term for the future and to let Brady go.
Instead they now still dont have Brady and its paired with the leagues worst QB situation
Jimmy G was capable of riding a good defense to a super bowl
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:45 am to RollTide1987
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I think we can all agree that Brady is a better GM than Belichick is because it was Brady who convinced Arians to sign Gronk
Gronkowski was retired and New England still had him under contract. He was traded to Tampa. So I don't think you can give Brady a feather in his cap over Belichick for that.
Belichick also tried to get Brown for Brady in New England. We all know how that turned out.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:45 am to RollTide1987
As usual... wrong....
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
No doubt Tom has cemented Billy as the most overrated coach in the history of sports.
Even Arians admitted he did not have to do a thing with Tom on the field.
Meanwhile Jeff Fisher I mean Billy couldnt rub two coconuts together this year
Even Arians admitted he did not have to do a thing with Tom on the field.
Meanwhile Jeff Fisher I mean Billy couldnt rub two coconuts together this year
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
Coaches win championships with great players? Groundbreaking stuff
How many does Phil Jackson win without MJ, Shaq, and Kobe?
How many does Phil Jackson win without MJ, Shaq, and Kobe?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:53 am to The Boat
Apparently the OP thinks surrounding your QB with a top 5 defense every year is really easy for a coach 
When you pair an excellent QB with an excellent defensive coach, you will win alot
I dont know what is so confusing to people
When you pair an excellent QB with an excellent defensive coach, you will win alot
I dont know what is so confusing to people
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:53 am to RollTide1987
quote:
think we can all agree that Brady is a better GM than Belichick is because it was Brady who convinced Arians to sign Gronk, Brown, and Fournette. All three of them scored touchdowns in the game on Sunday night and none of them were with the Buccaneers last year.
That’s pretty silly because Belicheck did draft Gronk, and signed AB, and had interest in signing fournette when he was cut
He is also responsible for the greatest team success run of modern sports for 2 decades
Bill will get a chance to restock and reload this off-season.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:56 am to wildtigercat93
quote:People also need to realize Brady chose Tampa for a reason:
That’s pretty silly because Belicheck did draft Gronk, and signed AB, and had interest in signing fournette when he was cut
He is also responsible for the greatest team success run of modern sports for 2 decades
Bill will get a chance to restock and reload this off-season.
They were fricking loaded everywhere. If he wanted "to prove it was all him", he would have chosen the Jets
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:56 am to lsupride87
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Umm, that looks like it would have been the right decision
In what world
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:58 am to wildtigercat93
quote:Would you rather the Pats have Jimmy G and all the pieces trading Brady would have given them, or what the pats currently had this year?
In what world
And you will say "Brady won another super bowl". Well, Jimmy G was good enough to get to a super bowl. He would have had a solid chance to win one with the Pats just like Brady did
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:02 am to lsupride87
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Would you rather the Pats have Jimmy G and all the pieces trading Brady would have given them, or what the pats currently had this year?
I’ll take the 2 world championships and 3 Super Bowl appearances during that stretch (or two super bowl runs and 1 ring if you don’t want to count 2016)
They can probably end up with Jimmy G anyway. Jimmy couldn’t have done what Brady has done since Jimmy left New England.
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And you will say "Brady won another super bowl". Well, Jimmy G was good enough to get to a super bowl. He would have had a solid chance to win one with the Pats just like Brady did
Jimmy has played a full season exactly 1 time in his career. There’s a reason the 9ers are begging to replace him.
Brady’s arguably has had an entire hall of fame career since the Jimmy/Brady trade stuff even happened, it’s silly to think going back and picking Jimmy would be a better decision
even Belicheck would admit that, which is why he laughed the 49ers off the phone when they asked about Brady before they executed the Jimmy trade This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:48 am to Wayne Campbell
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So I don't think you can give Brady a feather in his cap over Belichick for that.
You can actually. Gronk was retired and then came out of retirement when Brady went to Tampa Bay. This isn't coincidence. Sure, the Patriots traded Gronk to the Bucs because the Patriots had already attempted to trade him once before. When Gronk signaled he wanted to come out of retirement and play for Tampa, Belichick immediately gave him his blessing because, quite frankly, Belichick didn't want him anymore.
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Belichick also tried to get Brown for Brady in New England. We all know how that turned out.
Yeah, Belichick released him when the going got tough. Brady told Arians to take another chance on him and it paid off.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:51 am to wildtigercat93
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Jimmy has played a full season exactly 1 time in his career.
This. Jimmy Garoppolo is talented but made of glass.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:52 am to dukke v
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As usual... wrong....
You're one to talk.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
That's oversimplifying it. Gronk easily pushed the issue because his "unretirement" put the Pats over the cap at an incredibly inopportune time.
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