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re: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:43 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:43 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Curry had a usage of 32.6 this season. LeBron hasn't had a usage that high since he pre-Miami days.
and it's only comparable because steph doesn't have LeBron usg%
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:44 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:and silence fell over the crowd
Curry had a usage of 32.6 this season. LeBron hasn't had a usage that high since he pre-Miami days.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:44 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:and that's ultimately what we are talking about here. LeBrons peak was his final 3 years in Cleveland. Those were his three best seasons grouped together
LeBron hasn't had a usage that high since he pre-Miami days.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:45 pm to lsupride87
But not really
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:45 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Meow I dont know about that. Those first 3 years in Miami were pretty freakish
LeBrons peak was his final 3 years in Cleveland
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:46 pm to hendersonshands
How anyone could take Curry over Lebron amazes me.
Lebron does more.
Lebron does more.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:49 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Then I'm sure GSW are nervous about playing against the player who was #16 in defensive win shares....Kevin Love.
I think DRtg and defensive win shares used together paint a decent picture
quote:LeBron's average is 4.5, without ever allocating an win shares to a 73 win season.
it kinda does. Just looking at them, he probably averages what? Between 4.8 and 5.2?
quote:Like when LeBron averaged 35.3/9.1/7.3 in the playoffs in 2008-2009 with a PER of 37.4?
and I would personally take stephs offensive production right now over LeBron when he was in his final three years in Cleveland
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:49 pm to lsupride87
Holy shite, this thread got really fricking annoying.
Y'all aren't even arguing the same thing anymore. Pride/ohio/etc. are arguing that Lebron is better than Curry on D, and WestCoast isn't even arguing against that. He's simply saying that Curry's best gets close to Lebron's average, which makes Curry an above-average defender.
So he would take Curry's offensive game plus his "above average defense" over Lebron at his peak. That's his preference. Pride/ohio/etc. would take Lebron. Cool. We all know that now. Can y'all please stop stroking each others' dicks about it and move the frick on?
Y'all aren't even arguing the same thing anymore. Pride/ohio/etc. are arguing that Lebron is better than Curry on D, and WestCoast isn't even arguing against that. He's simply saying that Curry's best gets close to Lebron's average, which makes Curry an above-average defender.
So he would take Curry's offensive game plus his "above average defense" over Lebron at his peak. That's his preference. Pride/ohio/etc. would take Lebron. Cool. We all know that now. Can y'all please stop stroking each others' dicks about it and move the frick on?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:50 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:Which is meaningless when discussing each players PEAK.
He's simply saying that Curry's best gets close to Lebron's average, which makes Curry an above-average defender.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:51 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Then I'm sure GSW are nervous about playing against the player who was #16 in defensive win shares....Kevin Love.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:51 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:He had a 30.7, 31.6, and 29.3 PER his final three seasons in Miami. And since you're hung up on usage, he had a 32.0, 30.2, and 31.0 usage in those three season, which are all lower than Steph's 32.6.
LeBrons peak was his final 3 years in Cleveland.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to buckeye_vol
You can't debate Lebron haters.
I've never seen a superstar more underappreciated. IMO Lebron is easily top 5 ever, id personally put him 2nd. He makes everyone around him better, any team he plays for no matter if it's a team of scrubs, will become a winner. Curry is phenomenal, but he's not Lebron; he doesn't do as much.
I've never seen a superstar more underappreciated. IMO Lebron is easily top 5 ever, id personally put him 2nd. He makes everyone around him better, any team he plays for no matter if it's a team of scrubs, will become a winner. Curry is phenomenal, but he's not Lebron; he doesn't do as much.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:53 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
Can y'all please stop stroking each others' dicks about it and move the frick on?
Of course not. Have you forgotten where the frick we are right now?
Just grab some :kern: and get comfortable
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:54 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:Nobody disagrees that he's above average; he's ALSO arguing that he's as good of a defender. He stated it multiple times.
He's simply saying that Curry's best gets close to Lebron's average, which makes Curry an above-average defender.
quote:Well what fun would a message board be if we couldn't argue facts to support our opinion?
So he would take Curry's offensive game plus his "above average defense" over Lebron at his peak. That's his preference. Pride/ohio/etc. would take Lebron. Cool. We all know that now. C
I mean LeBron's my favorite player, and I can easily find facts to support why he's better BUT I can't find facts support why he's better than MJ.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to CocomoLSU
lebronpride87 has been posting in this thread non stop since 8:30 this morning defending his boy. 
Christ
Christ
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Which is meaningless when discussing each players PEAK.
It's not. At all. You're just too fricking stupid to realize it apparently.
He's saying that Curry's peak is an "above-average defender." Couple that with his offensive production, and that's who he would choose. So he values Curry's offensive ability + solid defense over Lebron's peak offenseive/defenseive stuff.
You disagree and would take Lebron.
That's it. The end. It's a difference of opinion. Hell, I would likely take Lebron, but can easily see an argument for Curry. But I have the benefit of not being blindsided by fanboy fever for either player really. Unlike you (and even WestCoast, to be honest). It's just hilarious that y'all are not even arguing the same points anymore, which is why it's getting nowhere. And each of you is picking and choosing which analytics to use to make your point, which is a problem with getting too overly analytical with the stats...because there is always something you can point to that backs up your point if you dig deep enough.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
You can't debate Lebron haters.
You're not exactly dealing with a hater here.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:56 pm to hg
He's awful
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:58 pm to PortCityTiger24
Lebron is an elite defender and Curry might as well be subbed out each trip down the floor
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:58 pm to hg
quote:
lebronpride87 has been posting in this thread non stop since 8:30 this morning defending his boy.
Christ
It's not that different from you showing up on this board when LeBron loses a playoff game.
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