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re: if they had to choose between kd and klay should the warriors pick klay?

Posted on 5/27/18 at 10:52 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 10:52 am to
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So that he isn't remembered as a role player for the rest of eternity
He's arguably the 2nd best shooter ever, an All Star, likely Hall of Famer.

If he leaves to be a #1 option, he'll be another good player who can't advance in the playoffs.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:07 am to
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KD is still an MVP and a historically great scorer. KD is the one you pick.


And Klay is still more important than KD in this system.

A healthy curry-Klay on gsw's squad is more balanced than a healthy curry-KD.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:10 am to
It's almost like people don't realize that KD is outplaying Klay in this series, the playoffs overall, the regular season, last season's playoffs, and so on...
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 11:11 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:16 am to
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He's arguably the 2nd best shooter ever,


Oh come on
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:17 am to
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I really like Klay, but I'd be concerned if he was the #1 option on my team.



I think he probably knows that grass isn't greener elsewhere.

Plus his family has never hurt for money. Father played in the NBA and was good with money.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:24 am to
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It's almost like people don't realize that KD is outplaying Klay in this series, the playoffs overall, the regular season, last season's playoffs, and so on...


I think most know he's out playing Klay individually.

But we know the ceiling of that team without kd, not sure of the ceiling of this team without KD.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72056 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:30 am to
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Oh come on



Come on what? He's already in the top 25 in 3PM in only 7 seasons, and will crack the top 10 in makes before he's 30.

Only 3 guys have a better 3P% with more than 3700 3PA - Steph Curry, Steve Nash and Kyle Korver

When it's all said and done it may very well be he and Steph as the best shooters of all time
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31626 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:54 am to
People have short term memory loss. KD carried GS in the Finals last year. He was dominant. There were legit posts on here where posters legit thought he was better than LeBron. He played good D, shot incredibly efficiently, rebounded well too. All that led to a Finals MVP.



Ariza has done a good job on Durant. That doesn’t make Durant a shittier player. That’s like saying when Kawhi basically shut down LeBron in the Finals a few years ago that LeBron was a scrub. No, good defense changes things, for everyone.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:56 am to
Well he said arguably like he already is, you are making assumptions that he will continue at his current pace


This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:56 am to
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Oh come on
You may wanna look this one up, I stand by my statement.

What is your argument otherwise?

Taking out Steph, who we all know is #1, let's take a look:

Klay has the 11th best 3pt% of all time and averages 6.9 3pt attempts per game.

The 9 guys ahead of him and their 3pt attempts per game(again, not counting Steph):

- Kerr 1.7
- Hubert Davis 2.4
- Drazen Petrovic 2.0
- Jason Kopono 2.1
- Kyle Korver 4.6
- Tim Legler 1.9
- Steve Nash 2.9
- BJ Armstrong 1.4
- Steven Novak 2.9



Honest question, are you saying it's a no brainer so much to laugh at me that you'd prefer a 44% shooter from 3 shooting 2 attempts per game over a guy shooting 7 per game at 42%? You sure that's the hill you want to die on here?


Korver is the only guy you could argue over Klay as #2 at 43.1% on 4.6 attempts. But I'll take Klay's 42.1% on 6.9 attempts.


What's so funny about Klay at #2?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:59 am to
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KD carried GS in the Finals
He was fantastic, but he didn't "carry" them.

Maybe it's just semantics but when I think a guy carried a team, I think he put them on his back and did everything. Steph was absurdly good in the FInals, and Klay was solid as well.

quote:

There were legit posts on here where posters legit thought he was better than LeBron
Those posts were not "legit" by any stretch. He was never nearly as good as Lebron, not even close.

quote:

That’s like saying when Kawhi basically shut down LeBron in the Finals a few years ago that LeBron was a scrub
I must have missed that one, what Finals was that?

If you're referring to 2014, Lebron averaged 28ppg on 57% shooting. Was that the one he was shut down?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Well he said arguably like he already is, you are making assumptions that he will continue at his current pace

The data doesn't lie.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:04 pm to
Anyone can stack ppg. You and I both know Leonard had his way with LeBron offensively and defensively in that series
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Anyone can stack ppg
Anyone can average 28 points on 57% shooting, guys!!! I guess every player ever just chooses not to do so, out of respect for their opponents or something.

quote:

You and I both know Leonard had his way with LeBron offensively and defensively in that series


Explain exactly how Kawhi had his way defensively with Lebron while Lebron was also unstoppable.
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31626 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:14 pm to
He was owned that series by Kawhi. He didn’t average that many points per game but yet he still won Finals MVP. For one reason, he kept LeBron in check.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:16 pm to
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He was owned that series by Kawhi. He didn’t average that many points per game but yet he still won Finals MVP. For one reason, he kept LeBron in check.

28ppg on 57%.

It was shut down but now it's kept in check?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31626 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:19 pm to
So you’re denying that Kawhi didn’t affect LeBron in that series? You’re trying to tell me the reason Kawhi won Finals MVP was because he averaged 17 ppg? lulz
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59130 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
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What is your argument otherwise?


He hasn’t played long enough but you guys are going solely off 3 point total #s which will skew towards current players when you say shooter I don’t think just about 3s. Bird did not attempt nearly as many because the game was different. It would appear the zone defense along with emphasis on analytics has meant more 3 point attempts and makes. Birds overall FG% is better as is his FT%. I’d love to see him in today’s game.

quote:

The data doesn't lie.


The data shows he has the 3rd best 3P% onhis own franchise

7 years isn’t enough imo he needs to keep it up though it’s hard to not think he’s gonna get more open shots cause he’s the 3 option
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
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So you’re denying that Kawhi didn’t affect LeBron in that series? You’re trying to tell me the reason Kawhi won Finals MVP was because he averaged 17 ppg? lulz

You're laughing at me while saying Kawhi shut down the dude who scored 28 a game on 57% shooting.

No self awareness...
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 5/27/18 at 1:20 pm to
You take KD.

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