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If the college football ranks are turning pro can it be set up as a pro league?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:26 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:26 am
Let’s say the top 50 teams decide to form their own league. Set up revenue sharing and salary caps
Every high school player is eligible for the draft.
Upon being drafted every player has 5 years of eligibility. If you aren’t drafted you have the ability to go to the mid-major teams for a season. After that 1 year in mid-majors you can reenter the draft if you like or stay where you are
Upon being drafted you have to serve 3 years for the team. You can be cut at any point but you then go to free agency and a team can pick you up. If you aren’t picked up you can try your hand at mid majors.
After you serve your 3 year contract, you then have options— nfl, resign for remaining two years with current team, transfer out and hope someone wants you.
If you have the ability to make money outside the college via podcasting, autographs, or product spokesman then go for it… but you are tied to your school indefinitely.
Obviously this can be tweaked. Just wondering if this could be possible.
Every high school player is eligible for the draft.
Upon being drafted every player has 5 years of eligibility. If you aren’t drafted you have the ability to go to the mid-major teams for a season. After that 1 year in mid-majors you can reenter the draft if you like or stay where you are
Upon being drafted you have to serve 3 years for the team. You can be cut at any point but you then go to free agency and a team can pick you up. If you aren’t picked up you can try your hand at mid majors.
After you serve your 3 year contract, you then have options— nfl, resign for remaining two years with current team, transfer out and hope someone wants you.
If you have the ability to make money outside the college via podcasting, autographs, or product spokesman then go for it… but you are tied to your school indefinitely.
Obviously this can be tweaked. Just wondering if this could be possible.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:42 am to The Eric
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Set up revenue sharing
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:48 am to The Eric
College Football has been ruined.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:51 am to The Eric
They will never openly declare themselves as a pro league because it would give the NFL an opening to start putting more games on Saturdays because the Sports Broadcasting Act doesn’t allow them to compete against amateur football on Fridays and Saturdays
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:52 am to The Eric
It should be like European soccer. NFL teams recruit HS kids from age 14/15, put them into an "academy" and play against the academies of other NFL teams.
Let the physical freaks play in their own league while the average joes can play each other.
Universities being attached to the current NIL world is a joke.
Let the physical freaks play in their own league while the average joes can play each other.
Universities being attached to the current NIL world is a joke.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:57 am to The Eric
They are going to have to. The current model is just not sustainable, and is going to result in lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. They cannot collectively bargain with 5 plus leagues, and that's before title IX gets involved. The only way to keep growing and get rid of every year free agency is to break away from the schools and collectively bargain.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:04 am to The Eric
1. If the top 50 teams are tied to a school then Title IX issues will impact any sort of revenue sharing. As in the schools will not be able to pay the star QB $6M per year and the backup SS on the softball team $600.00 per year. It's almost a certainty the salaries will have to be "equal"...even though football if the only sport that brings in enough revenue to pay for everything.
2. Any sort of revenue sharing, salary caps, etc MUST be agreed upon through collective bargaining. That means a players union. The NFL, MLB, NBA are actually monopolies that violate anti-trust laws in the purest sense. They are able to lawfully exists in their monopolistic form because of collective bargaining I.e. the players' unions and owners agree to the terms of business. D-1 college football is likewise a "monopoly" in the college football industry. The NCAA or any other organization cannot lawfully impose a salary cap or revenue sharing.
This would require the players being deemed "employees" of the school because what you are proposing is "employment" contracts.
It is a tangled mess because you are dealing with both federal law applicable to colleges (something the pro leagues don't have to deal with) and employment law. The easiest path to what you a proposing would be to essentially eliminate all college sports except football and men's basketball. Then again, I don't know if that is even possible with Title IX.
The irony is that if the players started their own "minor league" it would likely fail as a business. The goodwill of the industry is inextricably tied into the 100+ year relationship between the sport and schools. A game between the "Baton Rouge Tigers" v. "Ann Arbor Wolverines" would barely fill up a 30k seat stadium. Same players. Same location. But no century of goodwill tied to a school. It would be no different than minor league baseball or XFL football which, if you have been to one of those games, you know aren't terribly well attended.
2. Any sort of revenue sharing, salary caps, etc MUST be agreed upon through collective bargaining. That means a players union. The NFL, MLB, NBA are actually monopolies that violate anti-trust laws in the purest sense. They are able to lawfully exists in their monopolistic form because of collective bargaining I.e. the players' unions and owners agree to the terms of business. D-1 college football is likewise a "monopoly" in the college football industry. The NCAA or any other organization cannot lawfully impose a salary cap or revenue sharing.
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Upon being drafted you have to serve 3 years for the team. You can be cut at any point but you then go to free agency and a team can pick you up. If you aren’t picked up you can try your hand at mid majors.
After you serve your 3 year contract, you then have options— nfl, resign for remaining two years with current team, transfer out and hope someone wants you.
If you have the ability to make money outside the college via podcasting, autographs, or product spokesman then go for it… but you are tied to your school indefinitely.
This would require the players being deemed "employees" of the school because what you are proposing is "employment" contracts.
It is a tangled mess because you are dealing with both federal law applicable to colleges (something the pro leagues don't have to deal with) and employment law. The easiest path to what you a proposing would be to essentially eliminate all college sports except football and men's basketball. Then again, I don't know if that is even possible with Title IX.
The irony is that if the players started their own "minor league" it would likely fail as a business. The goodwill of the industry is inextricably tied into the 100+ year relationship between the sport and schools. A game between the "Baton Rouge Tigers" v. "Ann Arbor Wolverines" would barely fill up a 30k seat stadium. Same players. Same location. But no century of goodwill tied to a school. It would be no different than minor league baseball or XFL football which, if you have been to one of those games, you know aren't terribly well attended.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:21 am to goldennugget
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College Football has been ruined.
I wonder if it would be worth it for 50 to 60 colleges to break away and from a true college amateur league? Of course the NIL semi-pro league would attract more talent but the amateur league would embrace authentic collegiate amateurism.
I think the amateur league would be pretty viable.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:47 am to The Eric
Nobody would watch that shite.
I mean, yeah some would but it wouldn't get nearly the ratings as CFB today.
Pageantry, tradition and student interest would die, which is what makes CFB great.
I mean, yeah some would but it wouldn't get nearly the ratings as CFB today.
Pageantry, tradition and student interest would die, which is what makes CFB great.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:02 am to The Eric
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Every high school player is eligible for the draft.
It would completely destroy whatever was left of the idea that the athletes are students. Kids who actually want to get a degree getting drafted by a school that doesn't even offer the major that they were interested in.
"Oh you wanted to be a dentist? Sorry, you got drafted by an ag school so maybe you can be a veterinarian instead."
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:25 am to The Eric
All of this bullshite because people were crying about a player not getting money for autographs and such.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:07 pm to FairhopeTider
I know. I mean I get my proposal isn’t perfect this whole thing is just ridiculous when you think about it.
Even if LSU was undefeated, I’d still have a sour taste in my mouth knowing that it’s not the same as pre-Covid.
Even if LSU was undefeated, I’d still have a sour taste in my mouth knowing that it’s not the same as pre-Covid.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:19 pm to The Eric
The fact that revenue sports are essentially marketing arms of universities hasn't changed. That's why they exist. To bring in alumni donations, out of state students to public schools and all students to private schools.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:44 pm to FairhopeTider
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All of this bullshite because people were crying about a player not getting money for autographs and such.
I know it'll probably never happen, but seems like the only way to save college sports is for Congress to do pass something so the courts can't keep slapping the NCAA around. Give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption, make it to where the NCAA can legally prohibit schools from giving direct cash to players, and allow the NCAA to setup some sort of enforceable framework for NIL deals that still allow players to make money doing commercials, autograph signings, youth camps, etc....but prohibits all the shite we're seeing now with behind the scenes bidding wars from collectives and boosters for high school recruits.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:13 pm to Tiger Prawn
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I know it'll probably never happen, but seems like the only way to save college sports is for Congress to do pass something so the courts can't keep slapping the NCAA around. Give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption, make it to where the NCAA can legally prohibit schools from giving direct cash to players, and allow the NCAA to setup some sort of enforceable framework for NIL deals that still allow players to make money doing commercials, autograph signings, youth camps, etc....but prohibits all the shite we're seeing now with behind the scenes bidding wars from collectives and boosters for high school recruits.
That’s impossible though. With NIL it is now the right of the player to market themself as they see fit.
If portnoy wants to give a guy 10 mil to come on his podcast once a week for 4 years he can do that… with the understanding being that there will be no money or podcast if he doesn’t go to Michigan.
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