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re: If mahomes went back to college, what would be the worst program he could win the CFP?

Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:06 pm to
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But does Iowa stop OSU enough? They gave up like 60 points to them last year (some was because Iowa’s offense was so bad)



how many stops would Iowa even need to get? They forced a punt and 4 FGs in the first quarter so the were capable of slowing OSU down a bit

Iowa's offense went

INT
Fumble
Punt
Turnover on downs
FG
Punt
pick 6
Punt
Fumble
INT
turnover on downs
punt
turnover on downs
fumble
Punt
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:08 pm to
Mahomes would get killed on most bad teams
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:10 pm to
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If mahomes went back to college, what would be the worst program he could win the CFP?
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If mahomes went back to college, what would be the worst program he could win the CFP?


Does he keep all the maturity and experience he's accumulated in the NFL? That would be insane.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:11 pm to
This isn't basketball, 1 lone superstar can't just lead a group of bums to a championship.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:11 pm to
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how many stops would Iowa even need to get?


I’d say they give up 35 points give or take. 0 part of me believes that Iowa’s defense is better than Georgia’s and UGA gets shredded every year by Bama/LSU/or OSU. Does Mahomes drag that offense to 2 to 3 consecutive shootout wins at the end of the year?

quote:

INT
Fumble
Punt
Turnover on downs
FG
Punt
pick 6
Punt
Fumble
INT
turnover on downs
punt
turnover on downs
fumble
Punt


Outstanding
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26549 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Reggie Ball on the best team


Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26549 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

INT
Fumble
Punt
Turnover on downs
FG
Punt
pick 6
Punt
Fumble
INT
turnover on downs
punt
turnover on downs
fumble
Punt


Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36673 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Does he keep all the maturity and experience he's accumulated in the NFL? That would be insane.



yes
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36673 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:28 pm to
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This isn't basketball, 1 lone superstar can't just lead a group of bums to a championship.



Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:30 pm to
Does he get to bring Andy Reid and Travis Kelce?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26549 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
While Cam was amazing, don't forget Auburn had a five-star RB and two all-SEC offensive lineman blocking for him.

Auburn also had Nick Fairley wrecking shop on the other side of the ball.

Auburn was an 8-9 win team without Cam in 2010.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36673 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:51 pm to
MVP-level Mahomes is significantly better than college cam


The baseline is Cam Newton, Auburn was 8-5 before and after Cam.

Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Auburn was an 8-9 win team without Cam in 2010.


Hell they weren’t terribly far from being an 8 or 9 win team with him

Week 2: 17-14 @Mississippi State
Week 3: OT win hosting Clemson
Week 4: 35-27 hosting South Carolina
Week 6: 38-35 @Kentucky
Week 8: 21-14 hosting LSU
Week 13: The CamBack


This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20995 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 2:56 pm to
he couldn't win one with Texas Tech....

He wouldn't win one unless he was with a traditional power.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26549 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:04 pm to
I agree with everything you said.

I don't agree the 2010 Auburn team was a bunch of bums despite Cam.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36673 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:08 pm to
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he couldn't win one with Texas Tech....

He wouldn't win one unless he was with a traditional power.


he admitted to not knowing how to find the mike at Tech. Might have improved a little bit since then
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:17 pm to
im sure he has, but not like his stats were off the charts at tech and still couldnt come close to even winning to conference.

come on man.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36673 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:27 pm to
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im sure he has, but not like his stats were off the charts at tech and still couldnt come close to even winning to conference.



Oddly, his NFL stats aren't that much different than his tech ones. Obviously, there are more games but fewer plays per game.

last year 41/12 td/int 67% 5250 yards 8.1 yards per attempt

last year at tech 41/10 8.5 yards per attempt. 5052 yards 65.7%

he has admitted to not being able to read defenses when he was in college. It is safe to say he would be much better now after reading much more complex NFL systems.

This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8372 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 3:35 pm to
We already had a shootout involving him

Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield were part of a record-setting college football game between Texas Tech and Oklahoma on Oct. 22, 2016.

Teams combined for the most total yards (1,708) ever in a Big 12 conference game. The 78 first downs tied an NCAA record.

Mahomes and Mayfield also set an FBS record for passing yards by two opposing players in the same game (1,279) and most yards gained by two opposing players in one game (1,383).

OU won 66-59. QB stats:

Baker 27-36-545 and 7 TD to 0 INT
Patrick 52-88-734 and 5 TD to 1 INT

TTU finished year 5-7
OU finished year 11-2

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71443 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:05 pm to
Mahomes has an insane arm, but isn't an athletic freak a la Cam Newton. I'm not sure how much the ability to hit pin point medium and deep passes helps you in a lot of basic, lack of talent offenses.
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