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re: I think the pitch clock saved MLB

Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:17 am to
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8386 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:17 am to
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I love baseball and am very traditional about it (I loathe interleague play, for example) but the players abused the pace of the game, so to speak, until it was becoming an unwatchable exercise in standing around, spitting, waiting, fussing with shite …


I am the same way and I’m an old head. I don’t like the clock or the three batter rule in principle. But the amount of dead time was off the charts. I don’t care how long a game lasts. It’s the pace that was the problem.

Now the ghost runner thing needs to DIE. And the fact that Manfred even mentioned a “golden bat” is a fireable offense.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48362 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:26 am to
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Now the ghost runner thing needs to DIE


I don't like it either, but I sort of understand it for regular season games. I think a happy medium would be to wait until the 12th inning to start it.

18 inning regular season marathons are brutal for everyone. They suck for fans, they suck for players, and they suck for TV networks because no one is staying up until 2:00 AM to watch them.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8386 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:39 am to
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I think a happy medium would be to wait until the 12th inning to start it.


I could get on board with that.

I can also agree that marathon games are brutal. But I don’t think that’s why they did it. I think they did it because starting pitchers on average can’t get past 5 innings.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27771 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:00 am to
First couple games I watched were weird. Seemed too fast to me.

Quickly became a fan.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:54 am to
Small sample size, but I feel my house is a pretty good representation of the effect of the pitch clock. Two sons, 18 and 10. Both sports kids. When my oldest was 10 he couldn't watch more than two innings because it was so slow. shite, neither could I. Would end up finding something different to watch together. My youngest and I will watch at least one full game each week now.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93597 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:02 am to
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Quickly became a fan.


Indeed. The clock didn't just have a minor impact, it has drastically reduced the speed of play. Love it.

quote:

The MLB pitch clock, introduced in 2023, drastically reduced the average nine-inning game time by nearly 24–30 minutes, dropping from a record high of 3:10 in 2021 (3:04 in 2022) to 2:40 in 2023. By 2024, the pace quickened further to 2:36, the fastest since 1984, down from over three hours in previous years.


LINK
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37847 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:21 am to
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full length braves games from the 90s.
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The first half inning took 35 minutes and it was just a normal inning with...

One single
no walks,
2 ground outs,
1 fly out


If you go waaaay back, like to the 60's/early 70's, the games back then had a brisk pace. The pitchers, for the most part, worked very quickly. Like they got the ball, got their signal from the catcher, and then pitched the ball.

I feel like early 80's games also weren't too bad...like averaging around 2.5 hours. I am not sure when long games became a thing, and what exactly caused it.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10318 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 10:45 am to
Eh. Baseball is meant to be a relaxing, slow burn watch. Like golf
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46138 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Those silly old heads with their *checks notes* unruined attention spans.


Found a guy who loved 10 batting glove adjustments and 45 minute innings.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7312 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 12:17 pm to
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I am not sure when long games became a thing, and what exactly caused it.


I think it was incremental. It'd be hard to pinpoint an exact time when things got out of control. Probably the late 90's. Though those early/mid 2000 Yankees/Red Sox games were notorious for "pitch, mound visit, pitch, mound visit, throw over, throw over, throw over, etc."
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115218 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 1:28 pm to
Was 100% against the pitch clock.

Was completely wrong.

It has made baseball a very watchable TV sport.

Now they'll step on their dicks with a lockout/strike next season.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1431 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Now they'll step on their dicks with a lockout/strike next season.



Things will have to get worse before they get better. You cant keep going with certain teams payroll substantially higher than other team's gross revenue.
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 4:45 pm
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
4047 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 4:59 pm to
He doesn’t get brought up much, but I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to suggest Theo Epstein should be on the baseball Mount Rushmore.

- Broke the Red Sox curse
- Broke the Cubs curse
- led the pitch clock change
This post was edited on 3/25/26 at 5:01 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23221 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 10:44 pm to
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Some old head is about to bitch at you and say watching Nomar Garciaparra adjust his gloves 6 times during an AB was great for the game.


Have you actually heard anyone who was nostalgic for that? My dad and I both used to bitch about all that stalling shite that stretched out a game.

Always felt a little bit cheated having to leave a game early to head home without seeing the end because a regular season, weeknight game was lasting 3-4 hours.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30404 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:16 am to
Baez was often painfully slow but Steve Trachsel was as bad if not worse, they didn't call him the human rain delay for nothing.
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