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I don’t think SMU is as much of a lock as everyone thinks

Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:18 pm
If they lose to Clemson. Especially if somehow it was ugly. I’m not here to say who would or should take their place just saying if a swerve happened I wouldn’t be that surprised if they got screwed. Unless there are millions of pony excess type money flooding to the committee which is possible.
Posted by LawnmowerMan
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:15 pm to
Is this another one of those Bama should be in posts?
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:15 pm to
Brother you are the oweo of the msb. You do realize it is possible to have a thought and not start a thread on it, don't you?

It is better to remain silent and thought a fool...
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30871 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:03 am to
They aren't that good if you look at the teams they've played and the scores of the games. It does seem like they have improved over the season though.

Wouldn't be surprised if they lose to Clemson and don't get in. Byu beat them .
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:03 am to
When the final rankings are out, I think the committee will look at who would be favored if you matched up Ole Miss and Bama and South Carolina against some of these other teams like Indiana, SMU, Miami, etc. These matchups are favorable to the SEC and in the end I think Bama sneaks in there because they have so much talent and they'd be favored in these matchups.

Wild card might be Indiana. I thought they were playing Oregon in the CCG, and after getting throttled there I thought they'd be left out. Penn St will probably get throttled but they're in, IMO. So, Indiana will probably be in and that could bump Bama out.

I picked Bama to have to travel to Notre Dame, first round. I'd take Bama in that game. They would have almost 3 weeks rest and about 2 weeks to prepare.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
2509 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:55 am to
This board has hyped SMU for some weird reason. They haven't played anyone worth a damn, lost at home to BYU and gave up 44 points to an average TCU team. I don't get why people think they are a lock.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 6:05 am
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
889 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:06 am to
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If they lose to Clemson


They ain’t losing to Clemson
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54254 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:58 am to
Don't worry, OP. Bama will get in somehow. That is a given.

Someone will lose in the Conference Championship Game while you are at home (again), resting. You will get several weeks off then get to play a team that had to earn it by winning a conference title and less time off.

That will be your reward for losing three games, with two to unranked 6-6 teams.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:35 am to
Explain why you think an 11-1 team should fall behind teams for playing an extra game...

If they drop out, it will he the death of conference championships. Nobody comfortably in the top 10 will want to play

This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 7:36 am
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8711 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:57 am to
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Explain why you think an 11-1 team should fall behind teams for playing an extra game...



When a team is clearly in the playoffs because they have numerous quality wins against good teams in the regular season, it seems dumb to punish them for playing one more very good team in a championship game.

However, when the question mark about a team is that they are 0-1 against Top25 teams all season, doesn't considering how they do against another one in the conference championship game make sense?

SMU may be in with a loss to Clemson but their resume at that point would be 0-2 against the Top25, with only 2 wins against teams even in the SP+ Top 40 and 9 games against teams in the 50s-80s.


The added irony in their case about rewarding easy schedules even when you lose every high profile game would be losing to the team that one of the main competitors for the final spots, South Carolina, just beat on their home field.



If the playoff committee is faced with which is better between:

3-2 vs Top 25 teams and 5-3 vs Top 40 teams
OR
0-2 vs Top 25 teams and 2-2 vs Top 40 teams

they may consider every available resume point.



Posted by karmew32
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2017
1654 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:13 am to
If I'm a bye team, I'm hoping I don't draw Bama, Georgia, or Clemson in the first game. Those 3 teams just know how to win when the chips are down. I trust them over Oregon, who's under the immense pressure of winning their school its first national title in football.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94366 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:25 am to
It’s always BAMA fans that post dumb shite like this. Always.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94366 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:27 am to
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They haven't played anyone worth a damn, lost at home to BYU and gave up 44 points to an average TCU team.


Yet, so many posters are starting threads and arguing why BAMA should get in.

SMU loses to BYU and Clemson.

BAMA loses to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.

One set of losses is not like the others.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
5631 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:28 am to
Bama sucks. Get used to it.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54810 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

SMU loses to BYU and Clemson.

BAMA loses to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma.

One set of losses is not like the others.


and who did SMU beat? What was their schedule like?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9617 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

However, when the question mark about a team is that they are 0-1 against Top25 teams all season, doesn't considering how they do against another one in the conference championship game make sense?


No. This weekend should be treated like the conference tournaments for basketball. Nobody safely in the tournament is dropping out for going 0-1. You can only play your way in.

The exception being if a team is ranked 11th or 12th and someone earns a bid outside the top 12 and they get bumped out.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8711 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:05 am to
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No. This weekend should be treated like the conference tournaments for basketball. Nobody safely in the tournament is dropping out for going 0-1. You can only play your way in.


Fair enough to have that opinion but I don't think the committee has left out that option.

The difference would hinge on how "safe" SMU really is right now with a resume that's 0-1 vs Top25 teams and only 3 total games against SP+ / FEI Top 40. If they're considered safe enough to increase that to 0-2 against the Top25, fine.


However, that is a fairly strong statement about schedule strength from the committee if so.



Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6568 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:10 am to
SMU is in a lot better position with a loss then Miami is if SMU wins.

SMU is 5-1 against power 4 teams over .500
Miami is 3-2
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9617 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:56 am to
If they declined the bid to play in the ACC championship and Clemson beats miami instead. Are they dropping SMU from 7 to out?

If the answer is no, then they should not be penalized for losing. Otherwise, declining championship bids will be a reality
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8711 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:13 am to
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If they declined the bid to play in the ACC championship and Clemson beats miami instead. Are they dropping SMU from 7 to out?


If it's even possible to decline a conference championship bid my feeling is that the committee could very likely leave a team out for doing it.

Especially if the basis is that team thinking they're not going to be able to beat an opponent that's not even in the playoff field at that point.

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