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How safe of a pick is Jamarr Chase?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:00 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:00 am
Everyone can be a bust, I don't dispute that.
But I look at what Jefferson did as an NFL rookie - he was immediately one of the best WR in the NFL. I believe PFF had him ranked 2nd or 3rd. Not going to argue the accuracy of that but it's safe to say he looks like a great NFL player.
Then you look at Chase, who played on the same team/in the same system as Jefferson, and there was no doubt who THE guy was. It was Chase. He was clearly the best WR on the team. He did the most and that was with drawing the best opposing CB.
I am trying to think - have we ever seen a similar situation? Two players playing the same position on the same team in college, where Player A was unquestionably better than Player B, but Player B was a great pro and Player A was not?
I am sure such a example exists, but I can't come up with one. Again, all players can bust, but seeing what Jefferson did would make me feel pretty confident in Chase.
But I look at what Jefferson did as an NFL rookie - he was immediately one of the best WR in the NFL. I believe PFF had him ranked 2nd or 3rd. Not going to argue the accuracy of that but it's safe to say he looks like a great NFL player.
Then you look at Chase, who played on the same team/in the same system as Jefferson, and there was no doubt who THE guy was. It was Chase. He was clearly the best WR on the team. He did the most and that was with drawing the best opposing CB.
I am trying to think - have we ever seen a similar situation? Two players playing the same position on the same team in college, where Player A was unquestionably better than Player B, but Player B was a great pro and Player A was not?
I am sure such a example exists, but I can't come up with one. Again, all players can bust, but seeing what Jefferson did would make me feel pretty confident in Chase.
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Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:01 am to Tigerfan56
he won't break in half like devonta smith will the first time he is hit
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:04 am to Tigerfan56
I feel like Sammy Watkins was more touted than Deandre Hopkins coming out of college but obviously Nuke is the better NFL player.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:06 am to Duckman13
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I feel like Sammy Watkins was more touted than Deandre Hopkins coming out of college but obviously Nuke is the better NFL player
This is actually a great example. Watkins was definitely the better guy in college and Hopkins is far and away the better Pro.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:08 am to Tigerfan56
I mean the college game doesnt necessarily always = the pro game. not to mention finding the right system to play in is huge too. jamarr might not have the same impact as jefferson at no fault of his own.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:10 am to Tigerfan56
Chase is very strong, has ELITE hands, amazing body control, high points the ball well, and proved with his 40 that he has breakaway speed when needed.
I truly believe he's a can't miss prospect as WR1 in the NFL. If he was 6'3" he'd be one of the best WR prospects of all time.
Come at me bro.
I truly believe he's a can't miss prospect as WR1 in the NFL. If he was 6'3" he'd be one of the best WR prospects of all time.
Come at me bro.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:14 am to Tigerfan56
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He was clearly the best WR on the team.
I don't know if you can say that with 100% certainty. Jefferson had nearly 30 more catches and 18 TDs compared to Chase's 20. Now, Chase operated on the outside with more one on one matchups compared to Jefferson, but I wouldn't say it was CLEAR Chase was better. Jefferson was damn good! And he was good for 2 years. They each had tremendous games in 2019. But Jefferson seemed to be (just slightly) where Burrow looked more when he had to have a play.
It may be a matter of Jefferson being significantly UNDERRATED instead of Chase being so much better.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:14 am to Duckman13
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I feel like Sammy Watkins was more touted than Deandre Hopkins coming out of college but obviously Nuke is the better NFL player
This is a great answer. Montee Ball and James White is another one, with Ball being the superior college player but White having the much better pro career.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:15 am to CatfishJohn
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I truly believe he's a can't miss prospect as WR1 in the NFL. If he was 6'3" he'd be one of the best WR prospects of all time.
biggest knock I hear on him, and now I've heard it from multiple outlets, is they do not see him getting great separation naturally.
in that case he will need to be in a deep ball scheme to take advantage of his other talents.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:18 am to Tigerfan56
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Two players playing the same position on the same team in college, where Player A was unquestionably better than Player B, but Player B was a great pro and Player A was not?
Landry and OBJ is close to your scenario. Another few years and it could play out.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 am to Cheesy Beaver
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he won't break in half like devonta smith will the first time he is hit
How fricking DARE you make a comment like that!
BAMA fans will be here shortly to make the claim that Devonta is the next 165lb Jerry Rice because the game has changed and the NFL has NEVER seen anyone like Devonta. I mean, damn, have you not seen the stats Devonta put up in a COVID season?
He’s gonna be the first of his kind in the NFL, no doubt.
Smith over Chase and it’s really not even close.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:25 am to kciDAtaE
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Landry and OBJ is close to your scenario. Another few years and it could play out.
I think 90% of LSU fans would've drafted Landry over OBj.
Landry is an old school football player and teammate (in addition to his talent). If I was a GM, I would want him and 21 others just like him.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:25 am to Tigerfan56
Chase might have had the stats, but Jefferson was the best, most electric player on that team, and will be a better pro IMO. Obviously Jefferson is already one of the most electric WRs in the NFL after one year.
The thing that would concern me about Chase is that he has only had one year of good production at LSU, and it was in a system that usually had him wide open. And then he voluntarily sat out a whole year of football.
Before you guys get all pissy, I am not saying that Chase won't do well, it wouldn't surprise if he turns in to a star, but the question was how "safe" the pick is.
The thing that would concern me about Chase is that he has only had one year of good production at LSU, and it was in a system that usually had him wide open. And then he voluntarily sat out a whole year of football.
Before you guys get all pissy, I am not saying that Chase won't do well, it wouldn't surprise if he turns in to a star, but the question was how "safe" the pick is.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:26 am to Prominentwon
OP makes no mention of Smith but yall come in here and make it about him. Rent free 
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:26 am to Prominentwon
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How fricking DARE you make a comment like that!
BAMA fans will be here shortly to make the claim that Devonta is the next 165lb Jerry Rice because the game has changed and the NFL has NEVER seen anyone like Devonta. I mean, damn, have you not seen the stats Devonta put up in a COVID season?
He’s gonna be the first of his kind in the NFL, no doubt.
Smith over Chase and it’s really not even close.
Solid melt.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:28 am to Prominentwon
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How fricking DARE you make a comment like that!
BAMA fans will be here shortly to make the claim that Devonta is the next 165lb Jerry Rice because the game has changed and the NFL has NEVER seen anyone like Devonta. I mean, damn, have you not seen the stats Devonta put up in a COVID season?
He’s gonna be the first of his kind in the NFL, no doubt.
Smith over Chase and it’s really not even close.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:30 am to Tigerfan56
I think Chase is a pretty safe pick. He’s got elite speed, route running and hands. He spent all of 2019 embarrassing every team’s #1 CB one on one, and while that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll light up the NFL, I would think his floor is still pretty high.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:31 am to Tigerfan56
Chase is Michael Thomas esque. Strong but doesn’t get open using speed all the time, but can bully dudes. He’s also a good downfield threat.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:33 am to Funky Tide 8
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Solid melt
On. Cue.
Like fish in a barrel.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:34 am to Tigerfan56
Here's my take of what could happen, and LSU fans will downvote likely and that's ok:
I think there are at least 2 points against him being great.
1. He didn't play an entire season. That will impact you in a sport like football. Has he been hit in 20 months by a safety? I think at the minimum there may be a bit of rust with him, and worst case he is like Clarett and Williams who tried to get into the draft a year early and were denied. Both were phenomenal players in college and neither had any real impact in the NFL. Times have changed of course but that could happen
2. I don't think they both play the same position. They are both WRs but they had different roles in the LSU offensive system as I think they were both on the field together a ton. That may mean different matchups in the NFL that Chase is not able to take advantage of and Jefferson is
I always want these kids to do what is best for them, and Chase thought opting out was in his best interests. I hope it works out for him as he was damn fun to watch and has star power.
I think there are at least 2 points against him being great.
1. He didn't play an entire season. That will impact you in a sport like football. Has he been hit in 20 months by a safety? I think at the minimum there may be a bit of rust with him, and worst case he is like Clarett and Williams who tried to get into the draft a year early and were denied. Both were phenomenal players in college and neither had any real impact in the NFL. Times have changed of course but that could happen
2. I don't think they both play the same position. They are both WRs but they had different roles in the LSU offensive system as I think they were both on the field together a ton. That may mean different matchups in the NFL that Chase is not able to take advantage of and Jefferson is
I always want these kids to do what is best for them, and Chase thought opting out was in his best interests. I hope it works out for him as he was damn fun to watch and has star power.
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