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re: How Good Was Barry Bonds?

Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:02 am to
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:02 am to
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I saw him play in Fulton Co stadium when he was with the Pirates. I was a little guy but remember it clearly.


Barry Bonds was also a little guy at the time.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:26 am to
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Advance stats says otherwise

What advanced stats are telling you this?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:02 am to
He threw a one-hopper off line from short left. Let a slow arse lumberjack score from second on a routine single on the left side no less.



GIF doesn't do it justice.

How slow Bream was and how that ball just died in the air like it hit a pigeon. Bet he wished he was juiced then. Last play he ever made for the Pirates, last play he ever made clean. True colors. That's the real Barry Bonds.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 9:04 am
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:02 am to
I know Sid was slow but he was rounding third base when Barry was just getting the ball. I don’t blame bonds for that loss.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:09 am to
That’s definitely not Bonds throwing in that gif.

Bonds was a lefty and that outfielder is a righty.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:10 am to
question is who was best roided out ball player?

bonds?

mcgwire?

sosa?

Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:14 am to
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GIF doesn't do it justice.



No shite considering that isn't even the throw in question.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:43 am to


So, much wrong with that GIF. Lol First, it wasn't Bonds like the previous poster said, second, the runner was already well around third base before the outfielder scooped it up and came up throwing, and he still came close to getting the runner. If the throw was right at home plate or close to the line at left, he tags the runner out, but it's on the right of home plate where the catcher has to go over to the right to snag it and then hurry up and try to reach back to the left to try and tag the runner.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 11:18 am
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

How Good Was Barry Bonds?


He was the LeBron James of baseball!
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 1:18 pm to
Barry Bonds was no worse than the third best position player in the history of MLB, his only competition there is Mays and Ruth. (Before people start grinding about me including Ruth, the 25-year-old George Ruth who set the world on fire in 1920 was a 6-2, 215-pound world class athlete without an ounce of fat on him, and a five-tool player. The portly Bambino came later.)

Barry Bonds also was the biggest turd in the history of MLB. (Although in recent interviews it seems like he realizes it now and regrets it, although there's no unmaking the bed he created for himself with his turddom.)

He played two decades with a chip on his shoulder because he thought his daddy was mistreated. (Bobby Bonds IMO had more sheer talent than his son, but he wasn't mistreated, he was a sot drunk from high school days until he finally, admirably, got clean right before he died, who drowned that enormous talent in liquor.)

He juiced out of sheer ego, because he couldn't stand seeing people he viewed as his inferiors getting all the publicity.

And he "broke" the most famous record in MLB history, that was set by the most beloved man in MLB history, and subsequently broken by one of the finest human beings ever to draw breath on this planet.

The last four paragraphs are why some people will never accept what I said in my first paragraph, which is OK because, again, Barry Bonds made the bed he currently lies in as far as how he's viewed.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 1:42 pm to
Followup: In Joe Posnaski’s recent book on the 100 best baseball players ever … it’s a superb book, I highly recommend it and he has Bonds third behind Mays and Ruth and ahead of Aaron, Oscar Charleston, T. Williams, Cobb, Musial, Mantle and Wagner among position players) he has a quote from Bob DiBlasio, longtime PR man of the Indians.

He said Bobby Bonds, who was with the Indians in 1979, would bring Barry out to the park to work out, take BP, take fielding practice, etc.

DiBlasio said Barry could’ve started for the Indians that year. At age 15.

But again, when you’ve used up your goodwill, nobody cares.

This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 2:25 pm to
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He threw a one-hopper off line from short left. Let a slow arse lumberjack score from second on a routine single on the left side no less.


Wow. That’s actually an amazing throw. Considering Bonds was a lefty and the gif was thrown by a righty. If he can one hop to plate with his off-hand, there is no doubt he is the GOAT.
Posted by Damathe
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:39 pm to
Bonds was good in his day. Also lazy, petulant, spoiled, arrogant and selfish. I followed the Pirates closely for years.
I took my 9 year old son to see him play the giants. I had spent two days extolling his talent etc.
His first time up he grounds to an infielder and didn’t even run it out.
I then spent the next two days telling my boy to ignore Bonds’ bush league arse.
Bonds is not even in the top 100 players in mlb history. To think otherwise displays a complete lack of knowledge of history of the game or if Bonds.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 5:14 am to
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Bonds is not even in the top 100 players in mlb history. To think otherwise displays a complete lack of knowledge of history of the game or if Bonds.


I’d be interested to see your top 100.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5051 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 7:05 am to
It wouldn’t be all players from the last 20 years, that’s for damn sure.
Let’ try:
Ty Cobb
Babe Ruth
Rogers Hornsby
Willie Keeler
Lou Boudreau
Nap Lajoie
Willie Mays
Mickey Mantle
Walter Johnson
Shoeless Joe
Sandy Koufax
Ted Williams
Warren Spahn
Stan Musial
Dizzy Dean
Tris Speaker
Roberto Clemente
Satchel Paige

That’s off the top of my head.

There is waaaay more to baseball than stats.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Bonds is not even in the top 100 players in mlb history


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35035 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:10 am to
all those would be in the top 100 but you are equally a fricking idiot if you dont think bonds is atleast top 10 all time.

dont want to say he is the best...fine, i can live with that. not top 5, fine....but not top 10 and you are a fricking retard of the highest degree.

Was bonds a complete piece of shite and a complete a-hole to everyone he was ever around....yep but he was a bad arse baseball player.

as far as the juicing...like i said...almost everyone was. hell even my friends in rookie and A ball were because its the only way they could keep up.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38162 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:17 am to
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Bonds was good in his day. Also lazy, petulant, spoiled, arrogant and selfish.


His Arizona State teammates hated his guts. Why people knight for him is beyond me. He became great...but we know why. But him being one of the truly greats before that hypnotized needle...that's balderdash, poppycock and folderal.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
214058 posts
Posted on 5/31/22 at 8:46 am to
No Lou Gehrig?????

The top of your head is missing some brain cells.
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