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re: How can JaMarcus be labeled a bust when this is happening?
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:53 am to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:53 am to PortCityTiger24
Also, its funny how I can't see the "big picture" but he has made 4 starts this season. One of them has been "above average" or maybe even "good" so that dismisses what happened the other 75% of the time. Yea - I sure can't see that big picture 
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:53 am to supatigah
port you have been right on the money
the other thing these idiots don't get is that last year, he actually had a qb coach who knew what he was doing
greg knapp, who is in seattle now, work with him over the latter part of the season and that is why we saw improvement
knapp also work with steve young, jeff garcia, and michael vick
who replaces knapp, a guy who is about to go to jail
i asked this question yesterday and no one answered
Who has the raiders drafted and developed at the qb position over the last 20 years?
the other thing these idiots don't get is that last year, he actually had a qb coach who knew what he was doing
greg knapp, who is in seattle now, work with him over the latter part of the season and that is why we saw improvement
knapp also work with steve young, jeff garcia, and michael vick
who replaces knapp, a guy who is about to go to jail
i asked this question yesterday and no one answered
Who has the raiders drafted and developed at the qb position over the last 20 years?
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:57 am to Hardwood Tiger
Trust me, I'm not saying that the Raiders aren't the shittiest organization in the NFL, the offense lacks any sort of skill, and is ran by the crypt keeper. I'm saying that Jamarcus is part of the problem though, and not if he the Cardinal's WRs he'd magically be able to actually get them the ball. Sure maybe if they have an amazing O-line and amazing receivers he'd be a good NFL QB, but jesus christ you could say that about Brady Quinn too.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:00 am to PortCityTiger24
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They ALL had him rated higher than big ben coming out.
Don't you mean Brady Quinn?
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:03 am to PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:11 am to Hardwood Tiger
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who replaces knapp
Paul Hackett, who has a pretty solid record coaching up QBs, if not entire offenses and teams
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:12 am to SprintFun
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I love when arguments are reduced to pot shots at the university I attended - that REALLY proves something!
If you weren't acting like an idiotic douche it probably wouldn't come down to that. GFY
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:13 am to Maximus
I think he could be decent on another team, perhaps good down the road. He doesn't have the leadership or personality to preserve in the situation he's landed in IMO, which will result in him being an enormous bust.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:15 am to SPEEDY
Can’t they all suck? I think JaMarcus is a victim of circumstance (terrible organization, no coaching, an offense which feeds his worst instincts, lousy receivers), but it still doesn’t mean he isn’t shaping up to be a massive bust.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:28 am to SprintFun
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Also, its funny how I can't see the "big picture" but he has made 4 starts this season. One of them has been "above average" or maybe even "good" so that dismisses what happened the other 75% of the time.
uhh...you are missing the "worst pair of starting wr's i've ever seen" part.
still waiting on you to name a shittier group of wr's.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:33 am to PortCityTiger24
I can't do it.
Still waiting for you to acknowledge how he's part of the problem (and not the solution).
Still waiting for you to acknowledge how he's part of the problem (and not the solution).
Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:49 am to SPEEDY
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9 drops out of 33 passes? fricking horrible
ur right, however quit trying to make excuses for the guy. im a raiders fan and would like nothing more than to see him do well, but i doubt it will happen. he has horrible mechanics, terrible accuracy and doesnt put in the work necessary to improve. yes the raiders suck due to Al still running things but its stupid when people say oh hed be doing great on a different team. yeah right the guy sucks
Posted on 10/5/09 at 10:17 am to RLDSC FAN
Its amazing how long this JaMarcus Russell excuse train runs. Everyone wants to talk about how if he was on a different team it would be completely different. I don't know of another team that would want him.
As sad as the Raiders org. is they dont make him refuse to learn the playbook, refuse to show up for camp in shape, and make him one of the laziest dumb QB's in the league.
As sad as the Raiders org. is they dont make him refuse to learn the playbook, refuse to show up for camp in shape, and make him one of the laziest dumb QB's in the league.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 11:01 am to SprintFun
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SprintFun
You can't argue with these guys. They are absolutely deluded.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 11:34 am to bomber77
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one of the laziest dumb QB's in the league
FWIW, when he was here, a lot of the players I knew said the exact same things about him...that he was lazy and just plain ignorant.
Sucks too, cuz he obviously has the physical tools to be great. But QBing is arguably less than 50% physical.
This post was edited on 10/5/09 at 11:35 am
Posted on 10/5/09 at 12:01 pm to SprintFun
quote:no joke he has been part of the problem this year. you seem to be discounting how well he played at the end of last year.
I'm saying that Jamarcus is part of the problem though,
Posted on 10/5/09 at 12:20 pm to Charles Bronson
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You can't argue with these guys. They are absolutely deluded.
right...I am just saying that you can't say he IS the problem without looking at the big picture. Worst cast of WR's in the history of the NFL. I cannot think of of a group worse than what the Raiders currently have, not to mention that Al Davis is a loon and the head coach is a no-name who could possibly be arrested. That doesn't make me a homer. Far from it. Go to the Rant and see what they think of JR. They wanted Flynn to start from day 1. Nobody here is saying that he's a top 10 or even 20 qb, but it's not fair for casual fans to sit back on the couch and criticize without using common sense. Is that really the group you want to lump yourself with?
Posted on 10/5/09 at 1:53 pm to PortCityTiger24
JR = Akili Smith
He's not good. Would he be better on another team yes but he would still be a bad player. He's has bad WRs but JR has been abysmal.
Its not like hes played tough defenses this year.
SD (bad), KC (bad), Denver (good), Houston (bad)
He's played week defenses this year. And still putting up the worst possible numbers.
He's not good. Would he be better on another team yes but he would still be a bad player. He's has bad WRs but JR has been abysmal.
Its not like hes played tough defenses this year.
SD (bad), KC (bad), Denver (good), Houston (bad)
He's played week defenses this year. And still putting up the worst possible numbers.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:15 pm to PortCityTiger24
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anyone who actually watched the game yesterday knows that it wasn't on him at all.
true
mcfadden goes down on first contact and they never really got bush established
gallery is probably having his best season and they missed him yesterday
schillens is his favorite target and hasnt played yet. also where the frick is javon walker?
seemed like cushing, smith and williams were in the backfield on every play.
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