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re: How can anyone defend Deshaun Watson after reading the victims testimonies?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:43 am to JodyPlauche
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:43 am to JodyPlauche
quote:
100% criminal if it happened. I don't think that case was one of the ones settle or has it gone to the grand jury.
I cleaned pools and delivered pizza in college. People exposed themselves and made overtures all the time (not ones i wanted to unfortunately). Was all of that illegal?
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:45 am to shel311
What specific evidence makes you believe it was less than 25? Not a guess, based on evidence, what is the actual # you arrived at that you believe?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:46 am to YStar
quote:
This is actually half-truth because the conduct from a sexual harassment can be considered criminal.
True...but I don't consider repeated off colored joke the same as rape. Both would be considered a Civil Violation and one would be also criminal.
So yes...technically you are correct. I was speaking on Watson's action specifically
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:46 am to brmark70816
quote:
Was all of that illegal?
quote:
People exposed themselves
Yes
quote:
made overtures
probably not
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:48 am to TrussvilleTide
quote:I've legit said over and over and over and over that I have no clue if he 100% did it and if he did, with how many of the 25, so why are you asking me that question?
What specific evidence makes you believe it was less than 25?
quote:I don't know, like I've said all along.
Not a guess, based on evidence, what is the actual # you arrived at that you believe?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:50 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Where is the criminal case?
Buzbee on what happened
quote:
“I had no idea that the assistant district attorney was regularly corresponding with Deshaun Watson’s lawyer by email and text; I didn’t know that the assistant district attorney actually went to Hardin’s office to discuss the cases; I didn’t know that Watson’s lawyer provided a PowerPoint that was to be used before the grand jury,” Buzbee said in a statement. “I didn’t know, but now know after speaking to the investigating officer under oath, that the police investigation team was convinced that Watson had committed more than ten sexual crimes, or that the ADA has prevented the investigating officers from talking to the women who had filed lawsuits but had not filed criminal complaints.
“And what I do know is that, of the multiple criminal complainants in Houston, only one was asked by the ADA to appear in front of the grand jury, even though other victims were standing by to do so. As a taxpayer, and more importantly as the advocate for these women, I feel ‘home towned’ in my own home town, and duped. I think the public and all interested were duped as well. Makes you wonder. … Thank God for the civil justice system.”
LINK
Sure sounds like a DA friendly w/the Texans and Watson tanked the investigation.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:52 am to Dr RC
quote:That all may be true, but you certainly should not believe it is true solely because Buzbee said it's true. He was a well known sleazy Houston lawyer well before this case popped up.
Sure sounds like a DA friendly w/the Texans and Watson tanked the investigation.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:52 am to shel311
quote:
I don't know, like I've said all along.
You definitely seem to be implying the 25 number is high. How can you be sure there are women who aren't coming forward and the real number of victims is higher?
If you're just trying to figure it out based on "evidence", why are you so slanted toward it being lower?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:53 am to nicholastiger
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I'm trying to figure out who looks worse:
Watson or Trevor Bauer?
IMO, Bauer is getting railroaded because he was one of the main guys who went public with sticky stuff accusations (while acknowledging he used it himself in 2020 to make a point). That story is the very definition of a money grab by the girl too.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:57 am to brmark70816
quote:
People exposed themselves and made overtures all the time (not ones i wanted to unfortunately). Was all of that illegal?
You really have to ask this question?
Go stand on College drive and start flashing people...you will find out the answer pretty quickly.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:57 am to VADawg
quote:
IMO, Bauer is getting railroaded because he was one of the main guys who went public with sticky stuff accusations (while acknowledging he used it himself in 2020 to make a point). That story is the very definition of a money grab by the girl too.
I think Bauer is probably an actual POS, but in this case that just made him a convenient target.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:58 am to TrussvilleTide
quote:Implying? Does anything think that # is actually low?
You definitely seem to be implying the 25 number is high
quote:Holy shite dude, it seems no matter how many times I tell you "I don't know" you will keep replying about how I'm "so sure" about this case. What are you talking about right now?
How can you be sure there are women who aren't coming forward and the real number of victims is higher?
quote:What
If you're just trying to figure it out based on "evidence", why are you so slanted toward it being lower?
are
you
talking
about
?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:01 pm to shel311
quote:
That conduct is despicable. I do not know if that conduct happened with 1 or 5 or 25 girls.
quote:
So now it's 60 women, and coincidentally all 60 did not call the police?
Seems odd, that's all I'm saying.
quote:
Facts are that a bunch of women made accusations. That's very damning.
Also facts are that some of those lied to jump on the gravy train AND one of the 25 or 60 or whatever the # is went to the police or want to see Watson tried in a criminal trial. That's a pretty big red flag or just facts that really make you question the 1st fact.
That's basically it.
This you?
Yeah, you sound like a guy who is just a fact-finder. Just really digging to get the truth, not agenda or slant at all
If someone else makes a point based on context, its "we need evidence"
If you do it, we get a "seems odd"
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:03 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:Yes, are you trying to make a point? If so, I don't see it.
This you?
Saying I don't blindly believe all 25 women does not mean I believe all 25 women are lying.
Also, we know some of the women were lying, there are texts to prove it, so there is that too.
quote:You sound like you have zero reading comprehension skills whatsoever. It is what it is.
Yeah, you sound like a guy who is just a fact-finder. Just really digging to get the truth, not agenda or slant at all
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:04 pm to brmark70816
quote:
I cleaned pools and delivered pizza in college. People exposed themselves and made overtures all the time (not ones i wanted to unfortunately). Was all of that illegal?
Based on the past few posts of this guy, he can't separate porno from reality.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:08 pm to shel311
quote:
Yes, are you trying to make a point? If so, I don't see it
Yeah, I'm not surprised at all that you don't.
quote:
I don't blindly believe all 25 women
What specific evidence leads you to not believe them?
You want evidence for others beliefs but not your own. Typical.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:09 pm to shel311
quote:
Saying I don't blindly believe all 25 women does not mean I believe all 25 women are lying.
Exactly. It's not one or the other.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:10 pm to WaterLink
quote:
Based on the past few posts of this guy, he can't separate porno from reality.
Definitely an UnSub for sure
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:11 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:I don't blindly think they're all lying either, so why aren't you asking me about that?
What specific evidence leads you to not believe them?
I also answered part of that, but you conveniently ignored it
Tell me why do you believe all 25?
quote:What are you talking about? You're legit not making any sense.
You want evidence for others beliefs but not your own. Typical.
You have to do a bit better here, man.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:11 pm to LordSaintly
quote:Thank you, that 1 poster is so lost here.
Exactly. It's not one or the other.
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