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re: How can anyone defend Deshaun Watson after reading the victims testimonies?

Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:21 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:21 am to
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Well then they are lying...all 25!
I don't have a dog in this fight or pretend to know what happened.

On the 1 hand, yes obviously 25 similar types of complaints is pretty damning.

But I'd ask you this...we know 100% fact some of those women have admitted to being in on it for the money, those texts were released. That coupled with the fact that not a single one of those 25 women went to the cops or found their own lawyer, and all 25 women found the same lawyer who is a known sleazy lawyer in the Houston area...does all of that not give you at least a tad bit of pause to think something seems a bit off there?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:27 am to
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Yea, not like that has ever happened to rich athletes/celebrities. bElIeVe AlL wOmEn!


This dude has over 60 women saying he did it and he has close 2 dozen settlements

It’s like some of you choose to ignore the obvious
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9870 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:28 am to
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Making someone uncomfortable in a sexual way, like Watson did repeatedly, is text book sexual harassment.


They are sex workers. Would you take these accusations seriously coming from a stripper?
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8985 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:29 am to
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don't have a dog in this fight or pretend to know what happened.


The question was "after reading the victims statements".

Go read the statements and then pretend to know what happens. You can form an educated opinion on whether you believe anyone of the 25 or none at all.

But at BEST...he is super creepy.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:29 am to
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does all of that not give you at least a tad bit of pause to think something seems a bit off there?


Certainly think some women jumped in for the money

But you don’t settle with that many people if you know you’re innocent

He hemorrhaged money to avoid a trial

He is absolutely a sociopath creep
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8985 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:32 am to
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They are sex workers


Not the women Watson was recruiting.

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Would you take these accusations seriously coming from a stripper?


Yes...there is a reason strip clubs have bouncers.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:34 am to
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But I don't understand the masaage industry or why getting a happy ending is illegal. So I don't think he did anything wrong asking or making a move. I don't think that is harassment. I believe that a vast majority of men feel the same way. Just part of the experience. If women don't want to get "harrassed", rubbing oil on a naked man in a sensual way is not the way to avoid it..


Well it is illegal, dumbass
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:35 am to
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They are sex workers. Would you take these accusations seriously coming from a stripper?


Are you dumb or stupid? These women were not sex workers. Not all massage therapists are sex workers. Do you live in America?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112489 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:37 am to
Also being a stripper/sex worker doesn’t exclude you from the possibility of being assaulted
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:39 am to
Yes, this poster is also a sociopath. You are paying for a service at a strip club. That service does not include actual sex.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9870 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:39 am to
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Not the women Watson was recruiting.



Watson was getting over 100 massages a year. He used over 60 that they know about. 24 or so sued. The Others didnt. He had sex or got pleasured by at least half (including many that sued).

If 1 out of 2 or more are providing sexual services, that occupation is a sex worker. If I had a 50% chance of getting blown by my barber, that whole field would be looked at totally different. Which is why masseuse are looked at the way they are.

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Yes...there is a reason strip clubs have bouncers.


I don't believe you. I can get some action in a strip club right now in town if I ask the right one. Bouncers are there to make sure I pay first and not make it too obvious..
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:48 am to
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This dude has over 60 women saying he did it and he has close 2 dozen settlements

It’s like some of you choose to ignore the obvious
So now it's 60 women, and coincidentally all 60 did not call the police?


Seems odd, that's all I'm saying.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:48 am to
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They are sex workers
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5583 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:48 am to
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I agree with you. If he ain't in jail, he should play.

I mean Ray Rice, Tyreek hill, Joe Mixon, and Kareem Hunt never served time in jail and they all beat the shite out of women.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57576 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:50 am to
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If women don't want to get "harrassed", rubbing oil on a naked man in a sensual way is not the way to avoid it..


Some true incel shite right here

So you have never had a professional massage. It’s pretty clear that certain behavior is not going to fly when in the moment and it’s not the masseuse’s fault if you’re too dumb to read the room.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 10:52 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:50 am to
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Go read the statements and then pretend to know what happens. You can form an educated opinion on whether you believe anyone of the 25 or none at all.

I've said this plenty of times on other topics, but my opinion on it all or yours or whoever's is completely irrelevant and kind of boring if we're going to discuss my opinion, then you tell your opinion, then another post gives his. Meh.

Discussing the facts and what we know of this situation is much more relevant and interesting to discuss.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:52 am to
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But you don’t settle with that many people if you know you’re innocent
I don't believe the notion that if you settle that means you're guilty.

That's a bit naive thinking IMO.

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He hemorrhaged money to avoid a trial
Could they not have a criminal trial and still sue him in civil court?

Why did 60 women get sexually harrassed and not a single one went to the cops and not a single one wants Watson to be tried criminally? Not a 1? I'd almost argue that's equally eye opening as 60 accusations against the 1 dude...almost.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83859 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:52 am to
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You are paying for a service at a strip club. That service does not include actual sex.
I’ve been duped
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:53 am to
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I don't believe you. I can get some action in a strip club right now in town if I ask the right one.
I can get action from a bunch of nurses, does that make nurses sex workers too?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70988 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:54 am to
I do not disagree that many of these women are looking for a pay day. I also think some of them likely knew what they were getting themselves into.

But I can believe those things and still think that he undoubtedly forced numerous women to do something they didn’t want to do.
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