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re: How bad is the big 10 this year?

Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:52 am to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:52 am to
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In other words they won



No shite. My point is he is trying to put down Georgia and the SEC by putting down UNC. Which they, the only ranked team in the ACC, themselves struggled against.
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:57 am to
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It is dumb AF to judge a conference solely based on games they play AGAINST EACH OTHER
Agreed

My take on SEC vs. B1G as off right now

Tier 1 SEC LSU, Bama,
Tier 1 B1G OSU, Wiscy, PSU - all undefeated

Tier 2 SEC UGA, Florida, Auburn
Tier 2 B1G Michigan

Tier 3 SEC Mizzou
Tier 3 B1G Iowa, Minnesota
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:00 am to
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From what I have seen, they look like garbage


Same can be said about the SEC

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Psu and mich are very overrated


Auburn UF and Uga are very overrated

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Their offenses are garbage


SEC defenses like LSU and Bama are garbage

See how we can do this and be just as truthful. UF and Auburn are NOT good, and Texas sucks, so LSU's best wins aren't very good
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:03 am to
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My point is he is trying to put down Georgia and the SEC by putting down UNC. Which they, the only ranked team in the ACC, themselves struggled against.


Did they win against UNC? Did South Carolina?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:06 am to
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CatsGoneWild
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big 10


All day, every day.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:06 am to
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Did they win against UNC? Did South Carolina?

Ok let’s try again. He’s trying to say UNC is shite but Clemson themselves struggled against that shite team. I guarantee you he was bragging about how they played in that game.

I know you’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:09 am to
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From what I have seen, they look like garbage


Well that settles it
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:12 am to
No I’m arguing because there is a difference between losing to a bad team and beating them

So what if it was close, they won, no one would argue the ACC overall is better. The OP is arguing the B1G is bad and Penn St is overrated because they won a close game on the road against a ranked team
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:22 am to
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No I’m arguing because there is a difference between losing to a bad team and beating them

But the thing is UGA didn’t lose to them. They lost to the team that lost to them in week 1. Not quite the same thing.

The ACC definitely sucks but my point was not putting the ACC down. His main argument of the rebuttal was the SEC can’t talk because UGA lost to the team that lost to this supposedly shitty ACC team. Either that team isn’t as bad as thought because Clemson struggled to beat them or Clemson isn’t as good as thought because they struggled to beat this bad team.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:25 am to
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Don’t know why you are barking up this tree after the SECs 2nd best team just lost to a squad with their third string QB that lost to UNC.



To be fair. Bentley started that game because Muschamp didn’t want to start a true FR. Hilinski would’ve taken care of UNC just fine.

The again, Bentley did set all kinds of Death Valley records last year.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:50 am to
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His main argument of the rebuttal was the SEC can’t talk because UGA lost to the team that lost to this supposedly shitty ACC team. Either that team isn’t as bad as thought because Clemson struggled to beat them or Clemson isn’t as good as thought because they struggled to beat this bad team.


He wasn’t arguing for Clemson or the ACC. The OP said the B1G is garbage, which by any objective measure is plainly false, part of the OPs argument is Penn St is overrated because they they beat a ranked team on the road by 5
the Clemson guy was pointing out the #2 SEC team(based on the rankings) lost to a bad SEC team (at home no less) that lost to a bad ACC team which is all true.

That Clemson struggled with UNC is irrelevant
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 11:51 am
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:58 am to
He was pretty much saying that a fan of an SEC team can’t talk because UGA lost to USC which lost to UNC in week 1. By his own logic how does an ACC team’s fan have room to talk? A Clemson fan doesn’t have much more room to talk if they struggled to beat that supposedly shitty team. Again it means UNC isn’t as shitty as thought or Clemson is worse then thought based on the one game logic.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:11 pm to
I didn't get to watch it but damn, Nebraska getting run by Minnesota is kinda funny. Especially when you think about how many people piled on them to win the division based on absolutely nothing.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:13 pm to
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By his own logic how does an ACC team’s fan have room to talk? A Clemson fan doesn’t have much more room to talk if they struggled to beat that supposedly shitty team


he wasn’t bragging about Clemson or the ACC he was challenging an SEC fan that was critical of the B1G and pointing out the hypocrisy of the OP and that SEC has some shitty loses.

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they struggled to beat that supposedly shitty team


Beat is the operative word here
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:22 pm to
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he wasn’t bragging about Clemson or the ACC he was challenging an SEC fan that was critical of the B1G and pointing out the SEC has some shitty loses.

He was essentially saying SEC fans can’t talk (“Don’t know why you are barking up this tree after the SEC”) because of what happened. By his own logic he can’t talk either.
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Beat is the operative word here

But they struggled while UGA didn’t play them at all so they don’t really have much room to talk.
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:29 pm to
SOS for that garbage league. Bunch of mediocrity
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:09 pm to
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He wasn’t arguing for Clemson or the ACC. The OP said the B1G is garbage, which by any objective measure is plainly false, part of the OPs argument is Penn St is overrated because they they beat a ranked team on the road by 5
the Clemson guy was pointing out the #2 SEC team(based on the rankings) lost to a bad SEC team (at home no less) that lost to a bad ACC team which is all true.

That Clemson struggled with UNC is irrelevant




It is exactly as you clearly stated. I did not hold up the ACC as a great conference, or say that the SEC was garbage. Going into this weekend UGA was held up as the second best team in the SEC. That was a terrible loss to a bad USC team by any objective measure. The revisionist history to all of the sudden make USC something close to a top 25 team is comical.

Take off the SEC glasses. Penn State, Ohio State and Wisconsin are great teams that could give top tier SEC teams a run for their money - especially Ohio State and Penn State - elite talent on both lines of scrimmage. And they have some quality teams across the conference that are every bit as good as the mid tier SEC teams.

PS I still think UGA is capable of winning it all if they start acting like a team that doesn't deserve a spot just because they are UGA and they have assembled a ton of talent. Bama is vulnerable and LSU and UGA are capable of beating them.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:16 pm to
This thread fricking sucks, and I’m embarrassed to be a part of the same fan base as OP. Big 10 looks abnormally good this year. I should have learned my lesson by now, but holy frick LSU has some dumb arse, insecure, tiny dick fans. frick.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Tier 2 B1G Michigan


That's pretty generous. I don't think Michigan is very good.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:21 pm to
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That's pretty generous. I don't think Michigan is very good.



Agreed, but I think they'd give Auburn and UF a game
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