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re: How about one simple rule for at-large eligibility

Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:41 am to
Posted by Gator5220
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:41 am to
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A team could have scheduled the following teams this year LSU Michigan Oklahoma FSU Auburn Florida Washington USC and not had a ranked win there….

You could at least make an argument that you scheduled marquee programs since these games are set years in advance.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:41 am to
This might be the dumbest thread I've seen here this year.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:42 am to
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Those are conference games so they don’t have a say.


Is the Big 10 a power conference or not?

Indiana's OOC schedule does not look all that different than many SEC schools.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:43 am to
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Indiana’s non conference schedule: Florida International Western Illinois UCLA Charlotte
Ahh. Ok. Just judge teams on who they choose to schedule

The team that Indiana beat out

Non conf schedule

Western Kentucky
USF
Wisconsin
Mercer
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:48 am to
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The team that Indiana beat out Non conf schedule Western Kentucky USF Wisconsin Mercer

If Bama had scheduled one marquee ooc team and won, they’re probably in the playoff.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9514 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 7:52 am to
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So why does Indiana’s 10 pt loss


Guess you didn’t watch the game.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:11 am to
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It’s a 12 team playoff. The last few teams in aren’t going to be great

No, but if we don’t force better scheduling, both OOC and by the conferences setting their rotations, there is a significant incentive to water down schedules for possible playoff teams.

To use the example of Texas, the SEC should have been forced to take a harder look at Texas’ schedule. It was set like two years ago, when it could have been reasonably suspected that OU, UF, Arky, MSU, UK, etc wouldn’t be that good. It was pretty widely thought to be a very favorable draw at the time it was released.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 8:14 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:28 am to
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Indiana’s non conference schedule: Florida International Western Illinois UCLA Charlotte

It’s worse than that. UCLA is a conference game, and they bought out of a game with Louisville.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:28 am to
This is all good, in theory, but you can't actually control how good a team will be on a year-to-year basis, especially in the transfer portal era.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26774 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:30 am to
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This is all good, in theory, but you can't actually control how good a team will be on a year-to-year basis, especially in the transfer portal era.

You can’t, but I’m ok with a draconian policy to avoid the perverse incentives currently in place. A truly random sampling of SEC or B1G teams will end up with multiple ranked opponents the vast majority of the time.

Make an exception for conference champions if you want.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:36 am to
But you have no idea how a team will be from year to year when scheduling ..look at FSU this year .. don't like the idea...but if it were a rule, I think a better approach would be to use an average year end ranking from previous 2-3 years, preseason ranking and year end ranking.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10604 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:38 am to
So, what if we use another rule saying you can't have 2 or more losses to unranked teams?
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:40 am to
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Indiana’s non conference schedule:

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UCLA

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107901 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:42 am to
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Guess you didn’t watch the game.
I did. I also watched the game where bama failed to score a TD vs a 6-6 team

Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17082 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:45 am to
You have to add more nuance to a situation, because top 25 is a very arbitrary number.. If you beat a top 25 team, and they're ranked anywhere 20 or lower, chances are they are falling out of the 25, especially if it's the end of the season.
Do we really want to pretend that the #23 ranked team is just vastly better than the #26 team?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:52 am to
So Texas should be out?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17082 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 8:53 am to
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No, but if we don’t force better scheduling, both OOC and by the conferences setting their rotations, there is a significant incentive to water down schedules for possible playoff teams.


Sure, you can do that. But you also run the risk of missing the playoffs due to your weaker schedule unless you go undefeated. SMU was damn close to being left out for Bama as is. If Bama did not get embarrassed by Oklahoma, they're 100% in the playoffs. If Ole Miss doesn't lose to Florida, then they're in the playoffs over Indiana.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41939 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:10 am to
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If you finish the year with 0 wins against teams ranked in the final top 25 poll, you're ineligible for an at-large spot.


If you are going to D a ranked team because they did not beat any ranked teams, you also have to DQ a top 25 win for anyone who played the DQd team. If the ranking is insufficient to consider a team for the CFP ranking, it is certainly not sufficient to consider them a quality win. So it gets less simple.

Ultimately, it always comes down to people's opinions.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45849 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:34 am to
Or if they had beaten Vandy.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12694 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:40 am to
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Indiana’s non conference schedule: UCLA


Please frick off
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