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re: Houston Rockets vs. LA Clippers | Game 6 | 9:30 (CT) on ESPN | LAC 3-2

Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:26 pm to
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but can you see why most doubt the Rockets ability to win this series once Paul does return regardless of his health?


People knew Paul was hurt coming into the series and the majority of pundits out there took HOU. If you're gonna let 1 game change your mind you haven't seen much playoff basketball.
Posted by WeBeezYoSuperBowl
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:28 pm to
1. Nobody expects to win both games on the road at this point in the playoffs. You'd love to, it's just not very feasible.

2. Josh Smith is a fricking bum. Anyone who tells you different is either on his payroll or sucks his dick. Howard is battling 3 monsters. They lost game 1 at home and will lose game 3. His luck ain't that great.

3. Tell me you believe the Clips can't win the whole thing. Just tell me that.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:28 pm to
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this great team.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:29 pm to
Boom, 2 pages ago you used an excuse/reason (because at this point in the thread the lines are blurred on the meaning of those 2 terms) for the Rockets being "Trojan horsed" by the Clippers when Paul didn't play? Now everyone knew Paul was out before the series? Okay...

Paul was questionable for both games until hours before game time.

And what type of championship pedigree does a team have if they lose at home to a Clipper's team without Paul and are rusty in Game 1 of a playoff series?
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted by WeBeezYoSuperBowl
Trap house
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:30 pm to
None.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:32 pm to
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rusty in Game 1 of a playoff series?


The Lakers swept the first 3 rds of the playoffs in 2001. Had 10 days off. Lost game 1 to Philly. Rust? Must have been because they won the next 4. 16-1 in the playoffs, only loss was after an extended break.

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And what type of championship pedigree does a team have if they lose at home to a Clipper's team without Paul


Clippers played arguably their best half of the whole season without Paul. Paul makes them better, yes much better overall. But in a one game or one half scenario you can't say that they would've been better had they had Paul. Hell the best half HOU has played all year was without Dwight and Harden. Would they have played better than that if those guys were playing? Highly doubtful.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:32 pm to
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3. Tell me you believe the Clips can't win the whole thing. Just tell me that.


I picked them to win the West at the beginning of the year, but they ain't getting past the Warriors.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Boom, 2 pages ago you used an excuse/reason (because at this point in the thread the lines are blurred on the meaning of those 2 terms) for the Rockets being "Trojan horsed" by the Clippers when Paul didn't play? Now everyone knew Paul was out before the series? Okay...


The Trojan Horse was me. Did anyone know how the Clippers would play without Paul? They were a totally different team without him. Doc wisely chose not to ask Rivers to play Paul's game. They basically played without a point guard and with Blake running the offense even more than usual.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:34 pm to
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And what type of championship pedigree does a team have if they lose at home to a Clipper's team without Paul and are rusty in Game 1 of a playoff series?

The Rockets go through a lot of inconsistent stretches through games. That's a big issue for me with them.

I know Griffin went off in the first half, but they fact that they fell behind that much would be pretty worrisome to me.

Jordan doesn't offset Howard, of course. But he can come decently close. Defensively let's just call it a wash.

Paul/Griffin > Harden outweighs the Rockets' advantage in role players. However, it will be interesting to see how Paul looks in Game 3.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:34 pm to
Game 1 was on the Rockets. Their effort in the 2nd half was terrible.
Posted by WeBeezYoSuperBowl
Trap house
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:35 pm to
They may not, but they have as good a chance as anyone. People told me they wouldn't get past the Spurs either. Hell I even doubted they would. Doc has them playing championship ball.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:35 pm to
Those are good points Boom, I'll give you that one, but I think it's also a case for the Rockets being bad defensively or at least lazy for long stretches of the game defensively
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Just about every poster on this board said the Rockets wouldn't get through the first round all year
Reeeeach for the sky!!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Stop making sense. Clips lose. Oh Paul wasn't 100% healthy. He could score 30 Pts and have 15 Assita and he still wouldn't be healthy enough
Boom making excuses about excuses.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Lost game 1 to Philly. Rust? Must have been because they won the next 4.

Iverson didn't score 50 in the next 4.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:37 pm to
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The Lakers swept the first 3 rds of the playoffs in 2001. Had 10 days off. Lost game 1 to Philly. Rust? Must have been because they won the next 4. 16-1 in the playoffs, only loss was after an extended break.
Excuses!!!

Boom using that 1 game example while ignoring the research link on rust I gave him. Boom gonna Boom!
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
46021 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:39 pm to
I disagree with the Clips having as good of a chance as anyone. You may be right, but the Warriors are the clear favorites right now IMO. The Clips have zero bench, and I think that will come back to bite them at some point.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:43 pm to
Research doesn't pertain to every scenario even you know that.

Answer me this: RESEARCH shows that home court advantage in the NBA is decreasing every year. Does that mean that a team say Golden State has less of a chance to win at home than a team did say 10 years ago? No, of course it doesn't. Just because an article showed that rust doesn't exist when looking at 1000s of games as a whole doesn't mean it can't have an impact on one game.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:44 pm to
Clearly their words hurt you deeply.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Answer me this: RESEARCH shows that home court advantage in the NBA is decreasing every year. Does that mean that a team say Golden State has less of a chance to win at home than a team did say 10 years ago? No, of course it doens't.
No, they were 39-2.

But it does mean that it's harder to win at home, on average.

What's the criteria for rust to affect a team, some teams, and not others? And nonetheless, rust is an excuse.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 12:46 pm
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