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re: Heat to target Carmelo?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:49 am to brgfather129
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:49 am to brgfather129
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I, for one, will look at Dwyane Wade in a totally different light if he chooses to opt-out and make 14 million next year instead of 20 million
indeed, although, by living in FL, he will avoid certain taxes that he would be required to pay elsewhere so its not as big of a 'pay-cut' as some might think...
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:50 am to rocket31
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although, by living in FL, he will avoid certain taxes that he would be required to pay elsewhere so its not as big of a 'pay-cut' as some might think...
He already lives in FL. This is exactly as big as it looks.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:51 am to LL012697
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I hope this happens and starts a trend in the NBA with about 5-6 super teams battling it out. You can get rid of trash franchises like TWolves, Bucks, Hawks, Magic, Cavs, Bobcats, Raptor, and forgetting a few others.
Hawks, Bobcats and Raptors all made the playoffs this year.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:55 am to rocket31
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Melo is far more than a sexy name , thats hilarious
and Lance over Melo? - not sheriff srs
On a team that already has Bron, Wade, and Bosh? Hell yes. If I'm building a team, hell no.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:19 am to ShamelessPel
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So you remove a majority of the burden off a SG who shot 56% this year from the field and add a volume scorer who does not run the break anywhere near efficient as Wade
What? No one said that. Wade missed about 30 games. Melo can help ease LeBron's load so he can maybe play under 35 MPG. Melo is coming off the 2 most efficient seasons of his career. You don't think he will see his efficiency rise like Wade has playing next to James?
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I think adding Carmelo is a joke for them.
You're looking at Melo as he has been in NYK and Denver. Melo in the Olympics and presumably in Miami is Battier and Miller on steroids. Those 2 guys were instrumental in Miami winning their 2 titles.
Do the Heat need more help on the block and at the point than at the combo forward spot? Sure. But if you run out a team with Wade, James, Melo, Bosh how much does the 5th guy really matter? If these 4 guys really do take something like $13M a year, they should have enough space to attract some decent veteran options to fill holes.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:28 am to corndeaux
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What is interesting to me is that these guys would all take huge paycuts to win (you know the ultimate goal) and the large reaction has been "I hate the Heat."
Don't tell them how Tim Duncan makes less than 10M so his team could get more pieces.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:45 am to corndeaux
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You're looking at Melo as he has been in NYK and Denver. Melo in the Olympics and presumably in Miami is Battier and Miller on steroids. Those 2 guys were instrumental in Miami winning their 2 titles.
So you're using the much smaller of the 2 sample sizes and assuming that'd be the norm in an 82 game season? In a vacuum, it looks fantastic on paper. But Bosh already disappears from games without Melo. He now becomes the 4th option? How will Wade treat being the 3rd option and how does that affect his game? Like I said, there are players that add less question marks to the current Heat out there. I don't see Melo as a slam dunk cure to all their ailments. In an ideal world, you get rid of Wade/Bosh entirely and build around James/Melo, but what incentive is there for the former 2 to help the Heat in that scenario?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:46 am to ShamelessPel
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In an ideal world, you get rid of Wade/Bosh entirely and build around James/Melo, but what incentive is there for the former 2 to help the Heat in that scenario?
This is why I can see LBJ going to New York than I can see a "big 4" in Miami.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:37 am to ShamelessPel
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So you're using the much smaller of the 2 sample sizes and assuming that'd be the norm in an 82 game season?
Well he's never played on a team with anything close to the talent that Miami has except internationally. Judging him based on an entirely different situation doesn't make too much sense either.
He would be playing with friends of his. It's not like the Lakers- all four would all have to be on board to make it happen.
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But Bosh already disappears from games without Melo. He now becomes the 4th option?
Bosh doesn't seem to care at all about touches.
Miami moves the ball as well as anyone in the league. The ball finds the open man for them. All the other guys need to assimilate to what James does. If Melo comes on board, he understands that he is taking 15 FGA/G or less. He understands James s the alpha dog and runs the show. He would be choosing to sacrifice his numbers like Wade and Bosh have to be on a winner.
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Like I said, there are players that add less question marks to the current Heat out there
They can't get anyone via trade, so Love is not even remotely possible. FA is pretty meh this summer. Gasol is interesting, but how much are you paying for an old, slow footed big with health trouble? Plus he doesn't fit with who they are- pace and space.
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I don't see Melo as a slam dunk cure to all their ailments
AIlments? In the Finals trading punches with an amazing Spurs team is an ailment? This isn't the Kings we're talking about here.
ETA- The Heat have basically destroyed positions. Melo just continues that move. Those 4 with another shooter is mind altering.
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you get rid of Wade/Bosh entirely
Just in a pure basketball sense, Bosh is absolutely essential to who they are. His shooting from the 5 and his intelligence/athleticism on defense is extremely rare in the league. His ability really makes them work.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:55 am to Hat Tricks
They would be better off adding a solid point guard than Melo
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:02 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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They would be better off adding a solid point guard than Melo
agree.. heat would be 100x better with a rondo, than with a melo/lance stevenson
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:03 pm to oleyeller
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agree.. heat would be 100x better with a rondo, than with a melo/lance stevenson
I could see a value for Stephenson but not if you're keeping Wade.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:27 pm to rocket31
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indeed, although, by living in FL, he will avoid certain taxes that he would be required to pay elsewhere so its not as big of a 'pay-cut' as some might think...
I was also being totally sarcastic, which didn't come out in my post as much as I would have liked.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:38 pm to brgfather129
Seeing as Wade and James could easily play PG I think adding a PG is the dumb move. I would rather add another mismatch at the 3/4/5.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:05 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Seeing as Wade and James could easily play PG I think adding a PG is the dumb move. I would rather add another mismatch at the 3/4/5.
Can you add anyone that can play the 3 or 4 better than Lebron?
Now can you add anyone that can play PG better than Lebron or Wade?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:45 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Seeing as Wade and James could easily play PG I think adding a PG is the dumb move. I would rather add another mismatch at the 3/4/5.
On offense yes. But you don't want LeBron or Wade defensing a PG for significant minutes game in and game out for the regular season. Most teams run their offense through the 3 and that's who you want LeBron defending. I don't know that Wade can still defend some of the elite PG's anymore.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:58 pm to LSU82BILL
They could sign one of these instead of Carmelo
Dirk
Gortat
Humphries
Jordan hill
Hayward
Dirk
Gortat
Humphries
Jordan hill
Hayward
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:08 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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They would shatter the bulls 72-10 record
And still wouldn't be as good!
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:29 pm to Green Chili Tiger
If Lebron and Wade are handling the guard capabilities you basically screw the make up of 90% of the league because they would have big money in a vastly undersized player who wouldn't be able to guard anyone on the court.
I would take the Melo matchup at the SF and do just fine.
So
PG: James
SG: Wade
SF: Anthony
PF: Lewis
C: Bosh
Or maybe Kaman and Bosh at C/PF
How would the rest of the league match up with this lineup considering the money spent on guards?
I would take the Melo matchup at the SF and do just fine.
So
PG: James
SG: Wade
SF: Anthony
PF: Lewis
C: Bosh
Or maybe Kaman and Bosh at C/PF
How would the rest of the league match up with this lineup considering the money spent on guards?
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 4:51 pm to Colonel Flagg
Biggest thing to consider who would make up the second team and then the last 2.
Lebron
Wade
Melo
Bosh
???????
Allen
Lewis
Anderson
Cole
Battie
Jones
Oden
Lebron
Wade
Melo
Bosh
???????
Allen
Lewis
Anderson
Cole
Battie
Jones
Oden
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