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re: Has there ever been this many really good PG's in the NBA?
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 am to RonBurgundy
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:38 am to RonBurgundy
Ty Lawson says hello.
Billups was the best player on the Pistons when they won. You could make an argument for Sheed, but when Billups was traded, the franchise fell apart. Once upon a time, Billups was the most clutch player in the NBA (top 3 at least), by the time "mr big shot" caught on, the clutch gene disappeared.
Billups was the best player on the Pistons when they won. You could make an argument for Sheed, but when Billups was traded, the franchise fell apart. Once upon a time, Billups was the most clutch player in the NBA (top 3 at least), by the time "mr big shot" caught on, the clutch gene disappeared.
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:13 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I'd take a healthy Wall over Curry
lulz
you don't watch much basketball then.
Curry is far ahead of John Wall, who doesn't do a whole lot very well,he just happens to be the fastest guy in the league.
As a matter of fact in the Top 25 under 25 list made by ESPN the other day, Wall doesn't even crack the list.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 1:25 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:41 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Billups was the best player on the Pistons when they won. You could make an argument for Sheed, but when Billups was traded, the franchise fell apart. Once upon a time, Billups was the most clutch player in the NBA (top 3 at least), by the time "mr big shot" caught on, the clutch gene disappeared.
Rip was the best player on those teams not Billups.
As for today's PGs its by far the best its ever been. Just like the mid/early 90s blows today's big men out the water the same is true in reverse for PGs. Stockton and Payton would still be amazing top 3 or 4 but Tim Hardaway and Kevin Johnson wouldn't be top 6 and guys like Rod Strickland, Kenny Anderson, Nick Van Exel or Mark Jackson wouldn't even be top 10 IMO
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:00 am to Ghazi
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Again, Ben Wallace was the best player on that team.
rasheed wallace was the best player
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Bigs and wings reign supreme
in the neo-NBA, point guards are being used as wings. that's how westbrook got the thunder to the finals
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:01 am to genro
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A great PG is the absolute best asset a team can have.
dominant inside-outside 4
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:03 am to Ghazi
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. They won because of a suffocating defense. Who do you think was the anchor of that?
tayshawn prince, actually
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:04 am to BIGDAB
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Ask the Thunder if having a decent PG matters when contending for championship.
i know westbrook makes them a special team
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:07 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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but when Billups was traded, the franchise fell apart.
well let's be real. they dealt him to rebuild, and then dumars stupidly used that cap room to sign ben gordon and charlie fricking villanueva
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:12 am to genro
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Look at Chris Paul consistently getting the Hornets into the playoffs without much talent around him.
A great PG is the absolute best asset a team can have. Even if the rest of your team sucks, you can beat anybody with a great PG.
completely false
Just look how we played against teams with a strong front court when paul was here. A good point guard will get you into the playoffs, sure. But if you don't have inside presence, you're going nowhere.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
5 in a row? Calm down son.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:26 am to iwyLSUiwy
Rajon Rondo , BOS
Chris Paul , LAC
Greivis Vasquez , NOH
Jrue Holiday , PHI
Russell Westbrook , OKC
Top tier guys, these are the current assist leaders in the NBA.
Chris Paul , LAC
Greivis Vasquez , NOH
Jrue Holiday , PHI
Russell Westbrook , OKC
Top tier guys, these are the current assist leaders in the NBA.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:29 am to Sorrento Muddbugs
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Rajon Rondo , BOS
Chris Paul , LAC
Greivis Vasquez , NOH
Jrue Holiday , PHI
Russell Westbrook , OKC
Top tier guys, these are the current assist leaders in the NBA.
Vasquez is much improved but enough with the top tier crap. Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:29 am to GeauxWarTigers
Both sides are overstating their case in this thread. There are so many good PGs because they're practically impossible to guard with the rules of today's NBA. A fast guard can do whatever and get to where ever he wants on the floor. But the position for the most part isn't nearly as important because as some have said, there are so many adequate guys. The difference between #6 PG and #20 PG really just depends on his team and the number of opportunities he gets on his team to make plays.
At the end of the day, talent wins in the NBA regardless of the position they play.
The praise Rondo receives always baffles me. It's generally from people who only watch the Celtics on National TV or just look at the box scores. Rondo is the perfect case of the assist padder. He looks for assists to the detriment of the offense at times. It's very apparent, and it holds that team back. On a side note, it's great that Rondo shows up for games on TNT and ESPN, but it'd be cool if he'd just be consistent.
Perfect example Here he passes up a wide open lay up for an attempt at an assist with a guy 2 feet away. This doesn't even add to all the open lay ups he passes out of in the half court for his teammates to shoot 18 foot jumpers.
Edit: This doesn't mean he's not say the 5th best PG in the league, but he's not where people often try to put him.
At the end of the day, talent wins in the NBA regardless of the position they play.
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He doesn't score quite as often, but his assist/game average is doulbe Irving's. Rondo can score if he wants, but that typically isn't his game. He runs the show in Boston though
The praise Rondo receives always baffles me. It's generally from people who only watch the Celtics on National TV or just look at the box scores. Rondo is the perfect case of the assist padder. He looks for assists to the detriment of the offense at times. It's very apparent, and it holds that team back. On a side note, it's great that Rondo shows up for games on TNT and ESPN, but it'd be cool if he'd just be consistent.
Perfect example Here he passes up a wide open lay up for an attempt at an assist with a guy 2 feet away. This doesn't even add to all the open lay ups he passes out of in the half court for his teammates to shoot 18 foot jumpers.
Edit: This doesn't mean he's not say the 5th best PG in the league, but he's not where people often try to put him.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 8:31 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:38 am to REG861
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Vasquez is much improved but enough with the top tier crap.
Just posting stats.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:42 am to Sorrento Muddbugs
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Just posting stats.
Assists per game is not exactly the best way to judge PG play.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:37 am to jturn17
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Both sides are overstating their case in this thread.
Probably so. But there is no argument can be made that it is the least relevant. If you say a big is most important ok. But PG is right behind it and certainly not last in line. That is ridiculous.
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The difference between #6 PG and #20 PG really just depends on his team and the number of opportunities he gets on his team to make plays
Disagree with that though.
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The praise Rondo receives always baffles me. It's generally from people who only watch the Celtics on National TV or just look at the box scores. Rondo is the perfect case of the assist padder. He looks for assists to the detriment of the offense at times. It's very apparent, and it holds that team back. On a side note, it's great that Rondo shows up for games on TNT and ESPN, but it'd be cool if he'd just be consistent.
He can take over if he wants too though. Right now he is the best player on the celtics by far and I'd hate to see what they'd be without him. Him being able to create shots is one of the reason KG and Pierce are still pretty good. But he is inconsistent, but he was killer in the playoffs last year.
You can go hack a rondo if you wanted to though. He is terrible from the free throw line.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 10:28 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Rip was the best player on those teams not Billups.
frick no
Posted on 1/25/13 at 10:47 am to genro
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A great PG is the absolute best asset a team can have. Even if the rest of your team sucks, you can beat anybody with a great PG.
Meh idk. If you have a bad arse center that can carry you a lot. Dwight made it to the finals with a bunch of average joes shootin up 3's every shot
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:32 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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frick no
IMO there was no one guy on that Pistons team. It was basically a team of role players who fit together perfectly. On a separate team none of these guys could carry a team to the finals on their own. That particular pistons team was a Robert Horry shot away from going back to back with no real superstar on their team
Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:39 am to GeauxWarTigers
If Rondo is ahead of Kyrie, it isn't by much. Kyrie will be a top 3 PG next year. For the team he's on, the numbers he's put up so far in his career are fricking unreal.
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