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re: Has there ever been this many really good PG's in the NBA?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
Hopefully he's not confusing Ben Wallace with "scorer"
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Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:43 pm to genro
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He's very good, but no. Chris Paul is a great PG.
Then Chris Paul is the only great PG in the NBA. He's the only one head and shoulders above Kyrie
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:45 pm to Ghazi
quote:First off, that is an absolutely idiotic way to measure the worth of a position.
It's been over 2 decades since a PG was the best player on a championship team.
Secondly, the term "best player" is usually reserved for the star, and the star is usually the person who scores the most points.
Just because one player is a scorer doesn't mean he is the "best player" on the team.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:45 pm to genro
You said those Iverson "teams" that went to the Finals
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:45 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Then Chris Paul is the only great PG in the NBA. He's the only one head and shoulders above Kyrie
Rondo
A few years ago I would have said Deron Williams.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:46 pm to MrWiseGuy
quote:TROLLOLOLOLOL
He's the only one head and shoulders above Kyrie
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:46 pm to genro
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Hopefully he's not confusing Ben Wallace with "scorer"
No but he is confusing Ben Wallace with that team's best player. How can a player who can't score unless its a dunk (Wallace) be a team's best player?
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:47 pm to REG861
Rondo is not head and shoulders above Kyrie
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:49 pm to genro
quote:I knew somebody was going to say that. But I don't even consider Ben Wallace the best player on that team.
Hopefully he's not confusing Ben Wallace with "scorer"
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
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But I don't even consider Ben Wallace the best player on that team.
Only one dumbass on this thread thought that
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:56 pm to REG861
That team had Billups, Rasheed, and Rip Hamilton when they were good.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
Parker > Duncan ... that's on the same level as Dirk not being a HoF Ben Wallace was absolutely the best player on that Pistons team. They won because of a suffocating defense. Who do you think was the anchor of that? Chauncey fricking Billups or Ben Wallace?
But alas, Ben can't score worth shite, so of course he has no shot at NBA FInals MVP.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
Ask the Thunder if having a decent PG matters when contending for championship.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:58 pm to MrWiseGuy
Wasn't Eric snow the point guard on that 76ers squad anyway with iverson playing the 2?
And penny as a point all the way
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Solid year. I don't think Penny could count under PG though.
And penny as a point all the way
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:58 pm to MrWiseGuy
Rondo is not head and shoulders above him but rondo is probably a top 15 player. He drops triple doubles like crazy. Bill simmons has him in his top 10. Derrick rose when healthy is almost on Paul's level. I love rose, and I'm glad he got an MVP, but Paul had two years in a row that were better than rose's MVP year and he got the shaft.
Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:59 pm to Ghazi
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Ben Wallace was absolutely the best player on that Pistons team. They won because of a suffocating defense. Who do you think was the anchor of that? Chauncey fricking Billups or Ben Wallace?
Best defender certainly, but best player? Who do you think was creating opportunities for him to score?
ETA: Its hard to pick a 'best player' on that team. Such a cohesive unit
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:02 am to MrWiseGuy
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Rondo is not head and shoulders above Kyrie
He doesn't score quite as often, but his assist/game average is doulbe Irving's. Rondo can score if he wants, but that typically isn't his game. He runs the show in Boston though.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 12:06 am
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:05 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Top tier:
Chris Paul
Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Rondo
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Edit: WHOA, forgot Derrick Rose
Edit #2: John Wall?
Not top tier
quote:
Stephen Curry
Monta Ellis (whichever is the PG)
Brandon Jennings
Jrue Holliday
Kemba Walker
Greivis Vasquez
Curry is in tier 1 and Ellis is a two guard, Jennings is the 1, Holiday is the start of the second tier.
quote:
Kemba Walker
Greivis Vasquez
neither one of these guys are better than Felton or Nash
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:11 am to GeauxWarTigers
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He doesn't score quite as often, but his assist/game average is doulbe Irving's. Rondo can score if he wants, but that typically isn't his game. He runs the show in Boston though.
On my phone, so I can't highlight "he runs the show in Boston."
Boston is two games under .500. And Rondo plays with Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett.
Kyrie plays with Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters.
Yes, I know what Rondo has done in the past. But right now, today, he is not head and shoulders better than Kyrie.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:15 am to RonBurgundy
Like I say, up for discussion.
I'd take a healthy Wall over Curry
I'd take a healthy Wall over Curry
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