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re: Harbaugh in the SEC
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:14 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:14 am to H-Town Tiger
If he takes over a top program (LSU, Michigan, etc.), he'll quickly become one of the top 3 coaches in the country (along with Saban and Meyer). He is a stud coach and a stud recruiter.
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Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:19 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Ok. You must be 12 so I will explain. The post in question states Stanfrod does not have the money that a SEC school has. This is fales.Stanford has more money than any SEC school. Does the Stanford football program have SEC football money..prob not. The poster did not specify he was taliking about just football programs. Dont be such an SEC homer.
Stanford does not make anywhere close to the money the big time SEC teams do from football
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:24 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Really? What is Stanford's endowment?
This is one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time.
No, the funniest post is yours. You confuse a university's endowment with how a football coach is paid. A University rarely pays a significant portion of the coach's salary, and if they did at a place like Stanford, the faculty would rebel. Coaches are paid by boosters, and the Stanford boosters don't pay what SEC boosters do.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:25 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Certainly they have the money to spend - but they haven't done this before have they?
Again, it's up to them if they want to set a precedent. All I'm saying is they're certainly capable of doing it if they want to.
For political reasons within the university I'm not sure they are capable of doing that... spending top tier money to fight off other schools is how you would keep him
But I think the faculty would protest that kind of money being spent on football and the students and alumni may not be truly motivated enough to force that either
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:27 am to secfan123
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A University rarely pays a significant portion of the coach's salary, and if they did at a place like Stanford, the faculty would rebel. Coaches are paid by boosters, and the Stanford boosters don't pay what SEC boosters do.
If Harbaugh really stays an initial investment would be wise on their part. Eventually they can get their money back when they get a return on their investment.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:31 am to LSUintheNW
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If Harbaugh really stays an initial investment would be wise on their part. Eventually they can get their money back when they get a return on their investment.
That's true in a strictly business sense. But there are other facotrs as well. It may cost them donations from stodgier alumni who feel that paying a football coach 4 million is bad for Stanford's image. 4 million dollars for a coach would likely buy Stanford a reputation they don't want to have (hell they changed their mascot from an
Indian to a damn tree- that in itself tells me they don't take football seriously enough to pay to keep a top notch coach).
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:33 am to 1999
If Harbaugh was pissed off about his own Alma Mater's decision to lower academic standards, why on Earth would he entertain the SEC?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:37 am to Sophandros
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If Harbaugh was pissed off about his own Alma Mater's decision to lower academic standards, why on Earth would he entertain the SEC?
He wasn't. He was just looking for a reason to talk some shite. I garauntee you he has football players that would not have gotten into stanford without football (remember, Duke did it for basketball).
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:41 am to Nike1
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Ok. You must be 12 so I will explain. The post in question states Stanfrod does not have the money that a SEC school has
why don't you go frick yourself Greg Brady. I know what the post said, since I'm considerably older than 12, I also know what the poster MEANT. Yes Stanford (and Harvard and Yale etc, etc) have more money from their private endowments than LSU or Alabama. That's not where football spending comes from.
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Does the Stanford football program have SEC football money..prob not
Not probably, they have no where close.
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The poster did not specify he was taliking about just football programs
right because on a sports message board, in a thread discussing a football coach its hard to figure out he was talking about football. The discussion is about Jim Harbaugh and his future, how much money Stanford has in its endowment is not relevant, they are not and for all we know may not even be allowed to spend that money building a football program or keeping a football coach. And even if they did, they still would not be able to build a power house program the way USC or several SEC, Big 10, Big 12 teams could because they don't have a big enough nearby talent base, its not engrained in Stanfords culture and academics will limit their recruit pool.
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Dont be such an SEC homer.
has nothing to do with SEC homerism, the same could be said for several teams in the Big 10 and Big 12. Ohio State, OU, Texas and Michigan make way more money from FOOTBALL than Stanford does.
This post was edited on 10/1/10 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:57 am to Robot Santa
Will head to NFL after Stanford
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:19 pm to secfan123
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No, the funniest post is yours. You confuse a university's endowment with how a football coach is paid. A University rarely pays a significant portion of the coach's salary, and if they did at a place like Stanford, the faculty would rebel. Coaches are paid by boosters, and the Stanford boosters don't pay what SEC boosters do.
I'm not confused about who pays what from where, but thanks for your obtuse and unsolicited condescension.
The poster I responded to said "Stanford doens't have the money SEC schools do" which is horse shite. It is a major research institution with assets far and away more than ANY SEC school has.
SEC schools with the exception of Vanderbilt don't have all that much academic swag.
There are two fundamental questions: #1 Will they pony up the cash to keep him? and #2 Does he want to stay even if they do?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:21 pm to Sophandros
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If Harbaugh was pissed off about his own Alma Mater's decision to lower academic standards
He wasn't pissed. He was setting the expectations for his tenure at Stanford.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:43 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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I'm not confused about who pays what from where, but thanks for your obtuse and unsolicited condescension.
Yes, you really were.
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The poster I responded to said "Stanford doens't have the money SEC schools do" which is horse shite. It is a major research institution with assets far and away more than ANY SEC school has.
And considering we're on a sports board, the poster was clearly referring to athletic budet/donations. You do understand context don't you? No? Well then I just can't help you.
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SEC schools with the exception of Vanderbilt don't have all that much academic swag.
Which has what to with sports and football coach?
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There are two fundamental questions: #1 Will they pony up the cash to keep him? and #2 Does he want to stay even if they do?
Both of which have to do with sports and athletic budget, NOT endowment. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:57 pm to Nike1
quote:
The poster did not specify he was taliking about just football programs.
if we're talking about football and coaching salaries, this is whole-heartedly implied
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:57 pm to secfan123
You're playing with yourself there, bud. Trying to spin ignorance into logic isn't your strong suit. Give it a rest.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:58 pm to loweralabamatrojan
quote:
loweralabamatrojan
just stop
if you had any credibility, you've lost it
Posted on 10/1/10 at 12:59 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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You're playing with yourself there, bud. Trying to spin ignorance into logic isn't your strong suit. Give it a rest.
You can't figure out we're talking about sports budgets in a "more sports board" and I'M ignorant? Good lord you're dumb.
This post was edited on 10/1/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/1/10 at 1:00 pm to loweralabamatrojan
quote:
If Stanford wants to be relevant in football,
i doubt they really want it that badly
Posted on 10/1/10 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Their goal is to make their athletic programs self-sustaining. More ticket sales and a good TV deal can do that for them. A great football program that wins a lot, and a top tier coach like Harbaugh can do it for them.
i doubt they really want it that badly
And for frick's sake, while we are talking about athletic department budgets, Stanford is a private school whose athletic department is funded by a fricking ENDOWMENT.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 1:23 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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Their goal is to make their athletic programs self-sustaining.
i didn't know this. do you have a link or anything?
if they want this, they need a premier CFB coach and a private donor organization...so harbaugh would be necessary
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