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Posted on 5/20/12 at 11:40 pm to Chicken
well no offense but your source is wrong unless uva goes b1g. vt can not leave uva other wise. can not and will not happen, i dont care what any source tells you
now i personally think b1g will take unc, maryland, uva and duke to go 16. sec will take vt and ncstate. b12 takes the fla state, clemson, gatech, louisville, miami, and one other to go 16. dunno what the frick the pac12 will do.
now i personally think b1g will take unc, maryland, uva and duke to go 16. sec will take vt and ncstate. b12 takes the fla state, clemson, gatech, louisville, miami, and one other to go 16. dunno what the frick the pac12 will do.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 11:40 pm to rocket31
Posted on 5/20/12 at 11:43 pm to Easy
prolly will be until the sec gets the sec network going.
i hate the idea of 16 team conferences. it like 2 separate conferences. if sec does this they need to go 9 games with no perm rival for sure.
i hate the idea of 16 team conferences. it like 2 separate conferences. if sec does this they need to go 9 games with no perm rival for sure.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 11:46 pm to lsu777
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i hate the idea of 16 team conferences.
+1 its going to be ridiculous. Its a shame what's happening to CFB
Posted on 5/21/12 at 12:21 am to rocket31
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money is like 4th or 5th on the list; #1 is access to the BCS.
And why are schools fighting for access to the BCS? Because of...
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the anti-trust issue is why the AQ was just eliminated in teh first place.
Its merely window dressing. The language of AQ and non-AQ will be gone but the power players will still, and are as we type, jockey for a dominant position for the 4 team playoff.
I don't know what else to tell you man. You seem to think that the big four superconferences will not attempt to dominate positioning for best access to the 4 team playoff because they fear an antitrust action by other schools outside of those superconferences. I say they will. And with the language of AQ and non-AQ gone, I don't see how that helps an antitrust argument.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 4:17 am to Enfuego
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This is ruining college football
blame the ACC circa 2002 for starting this whole mess funny now its biting them back in the arse
Posted on 5/21/12 at 4:43 am to jcole4lsu
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to make up for the massive increase in travel costs
Are the Big 12 teams any farther away than Syracuse BC Maryland or Pitt
Posted on 5/21/12 at 4:58 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Are the Big 12 teams any farther away than Syracuse BC Maryland or Pitt
not really that and the Big12 covers travel so for us we wont be losing a dime
Posted on 5/21/12 at 5:01 am to F1V3LSU
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NC State and UNC aren't going to be in separate conferences. I just don't see how it is possible.
same with VT and UVA unless UVA makes the move first
Posted on 5/21/12 at 5:03 am to jcole4lsu
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:inb4someaggieretard:
bro i paged you on the sec ran needing some back up explaining the VT/UVA situation some people just don't get it. Then some random hokie poster tried to tell me i was wrong and that VT could just up and leave
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:16 am to lsu777
I should have been clear...my source just said that ND was going to the Big 12, and that FSU, Clemson and a third team (likely GA Tech) would follow.
The speculation about NC State and VA Tech is all from me...I don't know what the SEC does, but the ACC would be in trouble.
The speculation about NC State and VA Tech is all from me...I don't know what the SEC does, but the ACC would be in trouble.
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Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:27 am to rocket31
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the anti-trust issue was why the AQ was just eliminated
What's hilarious is, with out the curent set up, no way do teams like TCU get to the Rose Bowl or Utah and Hawaii to the Sugar
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:02 am to Chicken
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I should have been clear...my source just said that ND was going to the Big 12, and that FSU, Clemson and a third team (likely GA Tech) would follow.
If I were a betting man, and actually I am, I would think this is the most likely/logical scenario....Although i wouldn't expect the NotreDame/GaTech announcement to happen anytime soon...maybe even 6months-2 years after the FSU/Clemson announcement.
I think FSU/Clemson announcement will happen this summer.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:08 am to JPLSU1981
yeah, not sure when ND would actually make their move...seems like a bad idea for them, as I think they will lose some of their identity by joining a conference in football.
But I don't think they have a chance, and while the Big 10 makes more sense geographically, joining the Big 12 makes more sense from an exposure/recruiting standpoint.
But I don't think they have a chance, and while the Big 10 makes more sense geographically, joining the Big 12 makes more sense from an exposure/recruiting standpoint.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:12 am to JPLSU1981
I have to imagine that FSU and Clemson fans are not happy with going to the Big 12...they have nothing in common with the Big 12 teams...outside of playing Texas and OU, there aren't many teams that I would be fired up playing in that conference.
The SEC makes much more sense, but that will not happen since we already have schools from those states.
However, does the SEC want the Big 12 with their hands in SEC country? Would the SEC be willing to sacrifice TV markets to keep another power conference out?
The SEC makes much more sense, but that will not happen since we already have schools from those states.
However, does the SEC want the Big 12 with their hands in SEC country? Would the SEC be willing to sacrifice TV markets to keep another power conference out?
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:23 am to Chicken
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But I don't think they have a chance, and while the Big 10 makes more sense geographically, joining the Big 12 makes more sense from an exposure/recruiting standpoint.
The Big XII will also allow all 4 of Texas, OU, ND, and FSU to set themselves apart from their conference mates by selling their third tier rights, as well as other concessions to appease the big fish (as they have done with Texas), which the B1G will not do.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:24 am to Chicken
I don't think the SEC really cares about the Big12 coming into SEC markets....The ACC was already in SEC markets with these teams, and that doesn't seem to have "eroded" anything the SEC has. Actually, I think those teams in an odd conference geographically actually strengthens the SEC's hold on the southeastern TV markets in a sense. (Geographically, the ACC has always been the SEC's main "competitor", and a weakened ACC gives the SEC a stronger hold on SEC states in the context of TV.)
Also, I think the SEC-Big12 are kind of working together now, and FSU/Clemson/GaTech in the Big12 just strengthens that relationship with rivalries cross-conference.
Also, I think the SEC-Big12 are kind of working together now, and FSU/Clemson/GaTech in the Big12 just strengthens that relationship with rivalries cross-conference.
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:25 am to Chicken
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I have to imagine that FSU and Clemson fans are not happy with going to the Big 12...they have nothing in common with the Big 12 teams...outside of playing Texas and OU, there aren't many teams that I would be fired up playing in that conference.
Polls on their fan sites say the opposite, actually. People at CU and FSU love their football, and if there's one thing the ACC has shown lately with the addition of Pitt and Syracuse, it's that they care most about basketball. The Big XII cares mostly about football, but still has a solid basketball conference.
Edit: typo fixed
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:32 am to GABlueDog
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You seem to think that the big four superconferences will not attempt to dominate positioning for best access to the 4 team playoff because they fear an antitrust action by other schools outside of those superconferences
i don't think there ever will be big 4 super conferences...
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