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FSU may not actually be Bowl eligible
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:33 am
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This would be pretty funny if it turns out to be correct
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Florida State is scheduled to play in a record 36th consecutive bowl game, the Independence Bowl, against Southern Miss on December 27. Their 6-6 record includes a win over Delaware State, an FCS program. For an FCS opponent to be countable towards bowl eligibility, the FCS program must have awarded at least 90% of the FCS scholarship limit. After our own investigation, we have determined and confirmed that Delaware State has not met the 90% threshold set by the NCAA. As a result, Florida State's bowl countable record is 5-6, thus making them ineligible for a bowl game this season. At present, there are three other bowl eligible teams that were not offered a game and it would be unprecedented for a team to go bowling without either eligibility or a waiver while teams who are eligible stay home.
/r/CFB is the first to report on this after an extended investigation into the number of football scholarships at Delaware State. It is important to note that Delaware State is at no fault here, having complied with NCAA rules regarding scholarships and awards. Based on current NCAA rules, Florida State cannot count a win over Delaware State towards bowl eligibility. Given that the Independence Bowl is a week away, there are several options available with most resulting in Florida State playing in this bowl. However, if they do so, they may do so without being bowl eligible.
This would be pretty funny if it turns out to be correct
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:34 am to wildtigercat93
I'm sure the NCAA will jump all over this one
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:35 am to wildtigercat93
NCAA will investigate. And conclude their investigate 2 years from now.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:46 am to wildtigercat93
Jimbo 
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:48 am to SanAntoneAg
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NCAA will investigate. And concluded their investigate 2 years from now.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:58 am to wildtigercat93
They can't replace them this late can they?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:00 am to wildtigercat93
Stupid MSM won't report this
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:15 am to wildtigercat93
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For an FCS opponent to be countable towards bowl eligibility, the FCS program must have awarded at least 90% of the FCS scholarship limit.
That's a pretty arbitrary and strange threshold.
Keep it simple, no FCS wins should count toward bowl eligibility.
Then you don't have to start investigating FCS scholies each bowl season.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:16 am to wildtigercat93
So the true number is 56.7????
How to fix this? Stiff financial penalties such as loss of the guarantee DSU would have got from this game, and an unofficial blackball for a period of time from playing FBS opponents.
Also the scholarship status for every player and every team needs to be public information on the roster like height, weight, class, etc.
This is essentially fraud as I'm sure FSU thought they'd be playing a countable opponent
How to fix this? Stiff financial penalties such as loss of the guarantee DSU would have got from this game, and an unofficial blackball for a period of time from playing FBS opponents.
Also the scholarship status for every player and every team needs to be public information on the roster like height, weight, class, etc.
This is essentially fraud as I'm sure FSU thought they'd be playing a countable opponent
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:21 am to chalmetteowl
quote:Delaware St did nothing wrong. They are within the limits set by the NCAA. Maybe FSU should stop trying to book rent-a-wins
So the true number is 56.7????
How to fix this? Stiff financial penalties such as loss of the guarantee DSU would have got from this game, and an unofficial blackball for a period of time from playing FBS opponents.
Also the scholarship status for every player and every team needs to be public information on the roster like height, weight, class, etc.
This is essentially fraud as I'm sure FSU thought they'd be playing a countable opponent
ETA: or, crazy thought, beat 6 FBS teams.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:23 am to wildtigercat93
I mean the players at the other schools have stopped practicing and probably went home for the holidays after the seasons end. It's not like FSU can really be replaced.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:25 am to chalmetteowl
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This is essentially fraud as I'm sure FSU thought they'd be playing a countable opponent
I'm fairly confident FSU didn't schedule them thinking they'd need the win to be bowl eligible.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:25 am to SprintFun
quote:we need to see the contract. I'm pretty sure FSU has a case in a lawsuit that the game was played under false pretenses.
Delaware St did nothing wrong. They are within the limits set by the NCAA.
It will be an interesting case. If I'm paying ticket prices for what I assume to be a varsity game and I get a meaningless scrimmage through no fault of my own team...
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:26 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Kinda, yeah.
That's a pretty arbitrary and strange threshold.
quote:I agree
Keep it simple, no FCS wins should count toward bowl eligibility.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:38 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Keep it simple, no FCS wins should count toward bowl eligibility.
And 8 wins minimum.
That would eliminate a bunch of these meaningless bowl games (seriously, did most people really care about SMU and Louisiana Tech in the DXL Frisco Bowl?)
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:40 am to Quidam65
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id most people really care about SMU and Louisiana Tech
SMU apparently didnt
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:50 am to Quidam65
Everyone but smu did
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:02 pm to chalmetteowl
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we need to see the contract. I'm pretty sure FSU has a case in a lawsuit that the game was played under false pretenses.
It will be an interesting case. If I'm paying ticket prices for what I assume to be a varsity game and I get a meaningless scrimmage through no fault of my own team...
When teams schedule these cup cakes they dont ask about their scholly numbers. The more likely scenario is that that was the only team available and thats what they had to take. Saban has said many times that we try to play quality teams but there are just certain weekends that NO teams that would fit into that category really want to play anyone tough because its usually the week before a tough rival. Or towards the beginning of the year when they are still working on team gel.
I will tell you that there was nothing about this in any contract for this game. FSU doesnt give a shite if that win counts or not at the moment they sign this contract because #1 they just needed a game to fill the date and #2 they arent expecting to need that win in the first place.
I would like to see a penalty of some kind for FSU here. They should be self policing these things when it gets to the end of the season and they see that that win turns out to be whats keeping them in. There's plenty of precedent here with the NCAA requiring teams to self police any and all other aspects of sports.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:10 pm to SprintFun
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Delaware St did nothing wrong. They are within the limits set by the NCAA. Maybe FSU should stop trying to book rent-a-wins
Most every school does this 
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:24 pm to jlnoles79
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Most every school does this
I stopped going to UF rent-a-win games. I understand maybe one per year, but 2 or more is just stupid.
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