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re: Formula 1 2022 Preseason Thread

Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Ice Cold
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:11 pm to
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I guess I'll cheer for Sir Lewis Hamilton then. Is he any good?
Not sure if serious but if you are new to F1, neither Mercedes nor Hamilton need more fans. Watch Drive to Survive and pick someone else to root for, FFS.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18554 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:51 pm to
I like the idea of having to start with Williams. Haas is to unlikable now to start out with now other that the adorable relationship between Mick and his engineer.

Williams used to be a great team that fell apart but after getting major money pumped into them, they’re looking brighter and brighter.

Now they’re not the most charismatic team but the drivers are likable enough if kinda milk toast. Latifi will probably never do anything and Albon is a stable driver but not sure if he’s a long term solution.

You know who could be an interesting team to latch onto? Alfa Romeo. Everyone but Fighting Tiger loves Bottas and they have a pure rookie coming in so team dynamics will be completely unique for this year.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18554 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 6:52 pm to
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The 60's and 70's was easily the best era for motor racing in all forms. Will never be equaled.


All the people who burned to death in this area probably disagree with you.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 11:41 pm to
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Everyone but Fighting Tiger loves Bottas




Go back a few years and I loved the guy. When he came from Williams I was high as hell on him and had no problem with him pushing Hamilton. Even thought he would beat HAM and was excited about seeing it.

Bottas just lacks being a top driver and it looks like hate when you call him out on it. Never ever could he have done what Perez did in Abu Dhabi.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49030 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:57 am to
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The 60's and 70's was easily the best era for motor racing in all forms. Will never be equaled.


All the people who burned to death in this area probably disagree with you.


Nobody forced them to drive.

Just like nobody forces base jumpers to jump off buildings, or forces dudes to backflip their snowmobiles, or forces divers into cave diving.

They knew the risks and did it for the rush.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18554 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 3:41 am to
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Nobody forced them to drive.


Don’t start that shite.


Nobody did force them to drive. I’m sure they’d rather it been safer though to compete at a top level.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 4:58 am to
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Nobody did force them to drive. I’m sure they’d rather it been safer though to compete at a top level.




Niki Lauda comes to mind.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:33 pm to
The danger is half the reason they drive.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5174 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:57 pm to
Can I get some real world budgeting numbers for COTA weekend for 2? I would say on the budget end (not eating out at restaurant every meal). Also, what kind of experience for 4 and 5 yo... should I leave them home with family?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45717 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:01 pm to
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or forces divers into cave diving.
I dive, but there's zero chance I will ever dive a cave. It gives me the heebie-jeebies by just thinking about it.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:13 pm to
First, leave the kids at home. Just the whole bathroom experience should put a nail in that coffin. Also, there's no such thing as a kids meal there. Try a hamburger/fries and drink for $20. Food there is expensive. Can't (if you get caught) bring in any food or drink.

Tickets aside, if after the event you want to go out, by the time you've spent 2 hours trying to get from COTA to your hotel, you're going to be exhausted anyway, and not feel like going out.

But you can stay, spend money on merchandise ($$$) and food ($$$) and attend the concerts. This year was Billy Joel and Twenty-One Pilots. Both great shows. Next year's concerts haven't been announced, yet.

If you don't have a hotel already set up, be prepared to spend $600+ a night. Alternatively, you can book a complete house for that on Airbnb per night.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25579 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 1:27 am to
Cool video of simultaneous onboards for the final lap at Yas Marina

F1 Twitter

Top 20 radio messages of 2021

F1 Youtube
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 5:07 am to
Depends on how far out you want to stay and if you are driving yourself. This year we had to stay in Round Rock, but used Uber. ~350/night and it was about $30 uber to the shuttle spot.

If you are doing your own driving the uber and shuttle will about negate whatever you pay for parking.

Real world numbers. I could probably do it for under 1500 for 2 people if I was really trying to save money (only stay 2 nights). Realistically, 2000 is bottom number.

Leave the kid. There are a lot of kids there, but I figure at least 8 before I bring my little one. Especially for GA tickets.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8032 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:08 am to
I'd say leave the kids at home, Saturday and Sunday would be an all day affair if you really want to get your money worth. The people out there with kids looked to not be enjoying themselves a whole bunch. If you have the chance, go kid-free.

$880 for tickets in turn 12
~$1000 for hotel & parking, Thur.-Mon. downtown 2 blocks from 6th St.
$150 for a COTA parking pass


I believe I figured all in with hotel, parking, tickets, gas there/back, and food we were around $2800. There was a couple really nice dinners in there, drinking on 6th Street, food/drinks at COTA will run you between $20-$40 every time you stand in a line.

My wife and I enjoy driving and round trip flights out of Lafayette were ~$600, with a connection in Dallas, and would have been ~7 hours, so the 6 hour drive was a no-brainer. Plus I liked having a vehicle to come/go as we pleased. If you go the driving/parking pass route I'd suggest sticking around after the race for the concert or whatever to kill some time, getting out of the lot and to the hotel took almost 3 hours. We had packed some beers but be prepared to be stuck a while.

Our hotel room(on 8th Street) that was $190/night for 2021 is now $345/night for 2022 so that kind of stinks.

If you plan to go and want to grab dinner somewhere make reservations ASAP. We waited until about 2 weeks out and lots of places were booked up. Even still our dinners at Il Brutto(Italian) and ATX Cocina(hipster Mexican) were damn good and would recommend to anyone.


ETA: The GA ticket experience looked miserable. People staying in place/holding spots all day long baking in the sun didn't look fun to me to I was glad we splurged for grand stand seats and didn't have to worry about toting chairs/blankets/umbrellas/etc.

ETA2: Merchandise on site is crazy expensive, $60 was the cheapest hat I saw, the McLaren Gulf livery hats were $120. The on-sale T shirts from previous year/previous GPs were still $40 each. Needless to say we didn't purchase any of that stuff.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 10:15 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80109 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:14 am to
Honestly, looking at this thread… think we should have done a “off season F1 thread” and then did the “2022 F1 Thread” a week before testing.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5166 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Honestly, looking at this thread… think we should have done a “off season F1 thread” and then did the “2022 F1 Thread” a week before testing.

OP can still change the thread title.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14814 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:52 pm to
Just my opinion for 2022 thread, OP should start with the new rules and aero changes...then followed by car reveals/drivers for each team

It would take a little planning and time but would be a good primer for newbies

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:59 pm to
I was thinking the same. All the info in the first post of schedule and all.
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