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Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:24 am to
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:24 am to
Saw no Driver of the Day announcement so Mazespin trolls must have struck again.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11544 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:30 am to
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Well there is no way Gene Haas finishes season.


I honestly think Haas would be better to field a Indy car team than a F1 team. It’s way cheaper and I think the resources would there to field a competitive team.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:32 am to
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Saw no Driver of the Day announcement so Mazespin trolls must have struck again.


It was Hamilton with like 22%. When they first showed the voting results with a couple laps left it was verstappen 18 Hamilton 17.

First time I can recall Hamilton winning in a couple years. He didn’t win once last year I think.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5177 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 2:26 pm to
Gasly had a great race. I didn't think he was going to make it into the points. But he's definitely rehabbing his reputation, plus the AlphaTauri still looks strong. After his lower-than-expected qualifying, I thought AT was falling behind and getting passed up by Alpine, but it looks like they are right there after the top four teams, even if the points don't show it.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:36 pm to
Gasly has looked solid all season. I’m happy for him. Also note the second Red Bull car fares about the same regardless of driver.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:38 pm to
*except Albon
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18555 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:41 pm to
I saw somewhere else: “listening to Mick and his engineer interact is like listening two two golden retrievers interact”
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Not sure RBR had a new set of mediums.


At that point in the race they should have pitted and gone to softs. We’re talking lap 51-52.

ERA: if Verstappen immediately pits the following lap the race is a virtual dead heat and he’s on softs compared to Hamilton’s mediums. At least he has a fighting chance. Instead they say Hungary and let the exact same result occur.
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 5:08 pm to
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Verstappen immediately pits the following lap the race is a virtual dead heat and he’s on softs compared to Hamilton’s mediums


Exactly, Horner should have had a plan B ready to go... Max should have PIT next lap but they got caught with their pants down. They even acknowledged it as soon as it happened over team radio.

That loss is on Horner and leadership.
This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 8:39 pm to
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That loss is on Horner and leadership.


Along those lines, who is better at their craft:

Hamilton as a driver or Wolff as team principal?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:14 pm to
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That loss is on Horner and leadership.
What's bad is VER was letting them know.

People will say RBR didn't have the pace, but they had track position and Merc just sat there and picked at them until RBR faultered. RBR lost this, no way they had to become a sitting duck.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 10:17 pm to
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Hamilton as a driver or Wolff as team principal?


Good question. Would one be what they are without the other?

Saw some talking head make the comment that this win shows how much faith HAM has in Merc, but also shows how much faith Merc had in HAM. 25 seconds in the 23 laps. That is sick no matter how you look at it.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19211 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 11:46 pm to
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Wolff as team principal?


Wolff is certainly right when it comes to loyalty. If he signs a driver, they drive for the full season.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9338 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:38 am to
And they are cheap
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27092 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 7:52 am to
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Along those lines, who is better at their craft:

Hamilton as a driver or Wolff as team principal?


Tough, but good question. I think Hamilton is better at his craft, but Wolff isn't far behind. There will be business books and courses written on the past decade inside the Brackley office. Their ability to adapt so quickly is unreal.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:12 am to
I didn't know much about Hamilton until I started following this year. All I knew is he won almost every week and that reminds me of hating JJ and Gordon in NASCAR.

Then I watched a video about how he damn near won a title as a rookie and you can't really argue with that. I might not care for him as a person or for a Merc stranglehold on the sport, but you can't deny his amazing talent.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6576 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 8:25 am to
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who is better at their craft:

Hamilton as a driver or Wolff as team principal?
They're both exceptional. That's how you get 7 straight championships, and 6/7 for Hamilton. It's not one person being great.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80124 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:43 am to
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That's how you get 7 straight championships, and 6/7 for Hamilton. It's not one person being great.


And Ross Brawn giving them years advantage than all other teams.

Hamilton’s a prick, but talented... but he’s had a superior car to everyone in the field for the last 7yrs. Red Bull is finally just about equal and they keep shooting themselves in the foot.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 9:44 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:53 am to
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but he’s had a superior car to everyone in the field for the last 7yrs. Red Bull is finally just about equal and they keep shooting themselves in the foot.


When I started watching 4 years ago the Ferrari was, at worst, equal to the Mercedes. They were just even worse with strategy than Red Bull is now. They had a strong car in 2019 as well when leclerc dominated Bahrain until mechanical problems and they won 3 straight races in the middle part of the year.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:57 am to
Ferrari's frickups are legendary. They're the train wreck you love to watch.
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