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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread

Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:00 am to
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Like I said, feel bad for him. He kept asking the team to come in and they screwed him


He does this literally every race. Usually the team is right and he is wrong.

Broken clock and what not.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87962 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:00 am to
Masi was indecisive. He should have allowed the cars through from the get go. Just because he decided it late doesn’t mean it was the wrong call.
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6572 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:01 am to
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Tell me you've only been paying attention for 5 minutes without telling me you've only been paying attention for 5 minutes.


I am not talking about previous seasons. I have been watching F1 and NHRA for as long as I can remember. This season which is the one that matters the scales have been even. For Merc to be in it with as dominating as RedBull was all year is impressive.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:02 am to
what a thriller.

hate the call at the FIA at the end, but it made for more drama, and who doesnt love that?!
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6572 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:02 am to
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Wait. You don’t care but you love it? That’s hypocritical.


I don’t have an obsession with one driver.
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
4254 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:02 am to
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I don’t have a dog in this fight nor do I have an absolute allegiance to any of these drivers




sports would be dumb if all fans were unbiased
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:02 am to
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He should have allowed the cars through from the get go. Just because he decided it late doesn’t mean it was the wrong call.


He didn't allow all the cars through. He made a decision for drama and to give Max the race.

Had he let all the cars through the safety car would have had to stay out.

Edit: saying giving Max the race is not right. He gave the 2nd place car the race. I don't think Masi had a bias to a particular driver.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19511 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:02 am to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:04 am to
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but you have to admit Masi gifted RBR the win at the end.



Because Masi allowed them to fight it out on the track versus forcing a bunch of lapped cars to stay between first and second?

As they quoted the rules; Race control may allow lapped cars to pass the safety car.

They have that rule so races are decided by racing.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19511 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:04 am to
Toto radio call to Masi after the race

"You need to reinstate the lap before"

This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65273 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:04 am to
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To watch the season we have seen finish cheap like this is sad for the sport. The only people looking at this happy right now are those with blind hatred for Lewis and Mercedes.

wow.

MOAR!!!
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6572 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:05 am to
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Because Masi allowed them to fight it out on the track versus forcing a bunch of lapped cars to stay between first and second?


That wasn’t a fight. That was a gift to allow for what was a 14 second gap to close without having to close it with your cars pace.
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
4254 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:05 am to
I imagine the whole FIA room was freaking out at the thought of this season ending in a safety car parade and probably took too long to let the lapped cars through

If Lewis isn’t on 45 lap-old hard tires I think he’s got a better shot at defense though
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87962 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:06 am to
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He didn't allow all the cars through. He made a decision for drama and to give Max the race. Had he let all the cars through the safety car would have had to stay out.
Like I said, had he let them through from the start, they would have all made it. He made the late call because he knows he fricked up not letting them through to start. So he half assed it to get the race everyone wanted. His frickup wasn’t that he let half through. It’s that he didn’t let them all through at first.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:07 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:06 am to
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That wasn’t a fight. That was a gift to allow for what was a 14 second gap to close without having to close it with your cars pace.




Guess Toto should have put new rubber on Ham's car then, eh?

eta-A safety car always allows the field to bunch up. Have you never watched racing before?
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:08 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:07 am to
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So it half assed it to get the race everyone wanted. His frickup wasn’t that he let half through. It’s that he didn’t let them all through at first.


Yep. Then he had to stack them passing with the safety car ending. Which defeats the point of letting them pass, unless the only goal was to put the #2 car in a better position.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65273 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:08 am to
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For Merc to be in it with as dominating as RedBull was all year is impressive.
wut?
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6572 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:08 am to
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Guess Toto should have put new rubber on Ham's car then, eh?


Anyone can armchair after a race. He had pace on his older tires that would have carried him to the end. Had the original decision stuck Lewis wins on old tires. The decision changed which means the results did as well.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87962 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:09 am to
I think his goal was to let them race. The teams decisions have no impact on what he decided. If Merc had the tires they should have had, they win.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:09 am to
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That wasn’t a fight.
It was a fight for 2/3 of the last lap
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