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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:57 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:57 pm to fightin tigers
quote:They could see what was going on better than he could. I think they finally got through to him that his tires would fail and he'd start dropping positions rapidly.
Once that passed on that opportunity they should have went the whole race.
Better 5th than 12th.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 7:51 pm
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:11 pm to blueboy
Very difficult to say. A lot of it depends on his car setup
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:42 pm to Fus0623
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Great job by Perez
Is there any doubt after that spat that Red Bull easily has the superior car this year? Hamilton was ahead of Perez when they essentially started drag racing that straight, and by the end Perez was easily ahead of Hamilton.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:44 pm to Open Your Eyes
It’s a track by track issue. A
I mean, A Mercedes’ car won the race by a large margin.
I mean, A Mercedes’ car won the race by a large margin.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:48 pm to athenslife101
Sure, but there are many factors in that. Verstappen talked about how they didn’t really know how to manage the inters so they ended up managing the whole race without ever really pushing.
This is 2 cars essentially drag racing down the longest straight of the track, and despite car 1 starting at a slight advantage with the superior driver, car 2 easily wins
This is 2 cars essentially drag racing down the longest straight of the track, and despite car 1 starting at a slight advantage with the superior driver, car 2 easily wins
Posted on 10/10/21 at 7:58 pm to Open Your Eyes
Not really. A lot of it has to do with speed coming out of the previous corner. Hamilton ran him down, after all, and Bottas did win without being challenged.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:14 pm to athenslife101
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Sainz driver of the day. The interview was pretty awkward. He’s like “oh, this has never happened to me before. I’m, it was a nice race I guess I’ve had other nice races.”
Sainz seems genuine to me. Been a fan for a while.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:27 pm to VABuckeye
I am open about him being my favorite driver rather definitively. Yes, I think he’s openly honest and genereally underrated. He does make mistakes but he also does some masterclass stuff I don’t see other drivers doing very often.
To a certain degree I like most F1 drivers but some of the underrated guys like Sainz and Gasley I can’t help but consider them my guys
To a certain degree I like most F1 drivers but some of the underrated guys like Sainz and Gasley I can’t help but consider them my guys
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:33 pm to Open Your Eyes
Three races ago I thought RBR had the superior car, but I think Merc has pulled back even.
So hard to tell with them all running different engine settings due to power unit changes.
Austin and Mexico will be great races to see these machines battle.
So hard to tell with them all running different engine settings due to power unit changes.
Austin and Mexico will be great races to see these machines battle.
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:34 pm to Leonard
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I was really hoping Vettel's gamble was going to pay dividends but damn that had to be one of the toughest laps of his life on the mediums
It was a reallly rough lap for him. Seems hard to believe it was that bad out there but I also don't remember too many races that were Inters the whole race either.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:17 pm to Lsut81
Just go it will be awesome
Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:25 pm to athenslife101
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I am open about him being my favorite driver rather definitively.
Yeah, me too. We're going to Spain next May. My dream is to have dinner with the Sainz family while we are on Mallorca and then attend the Spanish Grand Prix. I'm fairly certain part two will happen. Part one is going to take some work.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:38 pm to VABuckeye
I like both the Ferrari drivers. I pulled for Carlos at Mclaren.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:20 am to MountainTiger
Would anyone want to work for Franz Tost? Dude comes across as a fricking complete a-hole. His driver management is well known as being pretty brutal. And now when people complain he about the 23 season schedule, he comes out and says anyone who doesn’t want to be on the road traveling for 23 weeks of the years should frick off.
As a viewer, I’m happy with 23 races. But as someone pointed you, your going to start losing quality engineers more as they get frustrated with the lifestyle
As a viewer, I’m happy with 23 races. But as someone pointed you, your going to start losing quality engineers more as they get frustrated with the lifestyle
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:35 pm to athenslife101
The engineers who are in F1 are there for the love. Their pay isn't really competitive across most disciplines especially considering the demands.
No doubt the 23 weeks as well as triple-headers is going to be too much for a lot of people. Even last year team principles and higher ups were skipping the last races.
Ron Dennis makes him look like Santa Claus.
No doubt the 23 weeks as well as triple-headers is going to be too much for a lot of people. Even last year team principles and higher ups were skipping the last races.
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Would anyone want to work for Franz Tost?
Ron Dennis makes him look like Santa Claus.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:07 pm to fightin tigers
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Their pay isn't really competitive across most disciplines especially considering the demands.
Do the teams ever release salaries for personnel such as the pit crews? Always curious what they make, bet probably not much but if you're able to travel the world I could see the appeal for younger guys
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:21 pm to Leonard
Watched this youtube video a couple weeks ago that give a little insight.
Obviously their duties are fulltime plus what they do on Sundays. They could do everything from breaking down equipment to driving the semi trucks to the next site.
I also don't think the pay for pit crew positions is standard across the board. Each tire carrier might get the same bonus for being on the pit crew, but their everyday job puts them at a different base.
Obviously their duties are fulltime plus what they do on Sundays. They could do everything from breaking down equipment to driving the semi trucks to the next site.
I also don't think the pay for pit crew positions is standard across the board. Each tire carrier might get the same bonus for being on the pit crew, but their everyday job puts them at a different base.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:19 pm to fightin tigers
Since we have some downtime, can someone explain to me the relationship between the ‘big’ teams and their smaller associate teams?
For example, MB and Williams. Williams has a glorious history but now they effectively do what Mercedes says? Is it because they are the engine supplier?
For example, MB and Williams. Williams has a glorious history but now they effectively do what Mercedes says? Is it because they are the engine supplier?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 8:38 pm to weagle99
RBR relationship with Alpha Tauri is different than Merc and Williams.
RBR and AT are owned and operated by the same entity. They have to act autonomously, but what oversight is there really when Helmut, and to a lesser extent Racey Spice, have open access to whatever they like. Red Bull owns all the seats and can swap them at will. They can experiment with AT for what may work at RBR.
Williams and Aston are customer teams with long relationships with Merc. Like Mclaren these relationships date back to before Merc was a constructor. Merc can buy seats, but they don't own seats in those teams. These teams act autonomously from Merc in all aspects, but IP can be traded for seats and other goodies. They bend to Merc a lot when it comes to helping Merc.
Ferrari has Alfa and now Haas in the same aspect as Merc. The teams are truly separated; but get favorable treatment since they are customer teams.
Mclaren is really the last true customer works type team left. They do their own thing and Merc doesn't appear to have a ton of influence any longer.
See the votes for regulation changes to see where loyalties lie.
Obviously, it comes down to money as well. Merc throwing out free engines can get their customer teams to be lap dogs.
RBR and AT are owned and operated by the same entity. They have to act autonomously, but what oversight is there really when Helmut, and to a lesser extent Racey Spice, have open access to whatever they like. Red Bull owns all the seats and can swap them at will. They can experiment with AT for what may work at RBR.
Williams and Aston are customer teams with long relationships with Merc. Like Mclaren these relationships date back to before Merc was a constructor. Merc can buy seats, but they don't own seats in those teams. These teams act autonomously from Merc in all aspects, but IP can be traded for seats and other goodies. They bend to Merc a lot when it comes to helping Merc.
Ferrari has Alfa and now Haas in the same aspect as Merc. The teams are truly separated; but get favorable treatment since they are customer teams.
Mclaren is really the last true customer works type team left. They do their own thing and Merc doesn't appear to have a ton of influence any longer.
See the votes for regulation changes to see where loyalties lie.
Obviously, it comes down to money as well. Merc throwing out free engines can get their customer teams to be lap dogs.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 8:48 pm to fightin tigers
quote:I was definitely hoping they turned Max down when he couldn’t close the gap on Bottas.
So hard to tell with them all running different engine settings due to power unit changes.
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