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re: Football's best ever coaches
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:21 pm to sugar71
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:21 pm to sugar71
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sugar71
Walsh is revered by coaches at all levels, and I know enough about what went on with the 49ers, especially in those early 80's teams, to know Bill wasn't just running an offense that had been around for 20 years already. You can cherry pick all the Belichick quotes you want but I'm pretty confident if you sat down and had a conversation about it he would agree with me.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
After a quick google search 
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LINK
: quote:
To this day, Belichick insists Bill Walsh: Finding the Winning Edge is the greatest piece of football literature regarding a franchise blueprint ever written. Belichick read the book in the nuclear winter of his own coaching career, between the disaster with the Cleveland Browns and resurrection with the New England Patriots. At a time in his life time when Belichick was forced to re-examine his basic truths about team building, he wrapped his hands around the second of several books by Walsh. When he was finished, Belichick's philosophical foundation as a coach had once again solidified beneath his feet.
"Saying it was outstanding wouldn't do it justice. For a coach, it's a Bible," Belichick said. "That book reinforced most of what I thought as a coach. I was glad to see Bill write it and say the things he did because a lot of it was either what I was trying to do or what I believed in. Between the book, the clinics, talking to Bill and picking things up from the (San Francisco) 49ers organization, there was certainly a confirmation in my mind that this is the way to do it."
LINK
Posted on 11/30/16 at 3:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Any list that doesn't include Amos Alonzo Stagg is flawed imo.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:03 pm to pennypacker3
I gave strong consideration to Stagg. He would have likely been the next "honorable mention"
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Picking the five is tough. Nice presentation in the OP. Thanks
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You're an idiot
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Walsh should be at least 3rd and way ahead of Belichick.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I wouldn't argue him to be in the top-5, but I'll say at least one coach who has been criminally underrated for a long time.
John Madden still has the highest winning % of any coach in NFL history.
John Madden still has the highest winning % of any coach in NFL history.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:42 pm to gorillacoco
quote:
quote: In 10-15 years when he finally calls it quits, Saban will be on this list. What Saban has done at the college level is nothing short of amazing, but a huge part of it comes from his unparalleled recruiting. Saban is a very good in-game coach, but not the best of the best by any stretch. Without the #1 recruiting class every year he would not have anywhere near the dynasty that he has right now. And he was a total flop at the professional level. I think at the very least Saban needs to succeed in the NFL to have any remote claim at top 5 best coaches.
No,Saban wasn't a flop in the NFL ... not claiming he should be on this list, but the narrative that he was horrible in the NFL is ignorant or stupid ...
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:47 pm to tiderider
Chris Ault needs to be mentioned
Invented the Pistol
Norm VanBrocklin also as he is the father of the modern passing game
Tom Landry who gave Lombardi the defense for the Packers then invented the Flex
Invented the Pistol
Norm VanBrocklin also as he is the father of the modern passing game
Tom Landry who gave Lombardi the defense for the Packers then invented the Flex
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:37 pm to sms151t
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Tom Landry
Landry is on the list fool
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I just saw Walsh and Brown when I skimmed OP from phone, my apologies
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:46 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You left off Jimmy Johnson
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:05 pm to CHEDBALLZ
JJ is top 15-20 material
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:24 am to tiderider
quote:
the narrative that he was horrible in the NFL is ignorant or stupid ...
I mean, the dude went 9-7 and 6-10 and then went back to what he was comfortable with. I know they had major issues at QB in Miami. Doesn't change the 6-10 record with some pretty bad losses. I mean, it's not the worst season of all time, but to take two years and then run back to your comfort zone pretty much disqualifies you from the top 5 coaches ever IMO. I guess that was my point.
You have a fair point tho. He wasn't a total disaster, he just wasn't any good either.
ETA: If this were a list of top college coaches, Saban would be there without debate.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 8:30 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Lacour
quote:
You're an idiot
riveting analysis
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:16 am to Draconian Sanctions
No college coaches should ever be on this list. NFL only.
Recruiting does not equal coaching.
Pete Carroll > Nick Saban
/hot take
Recruiting does not equal coaching.
Pete Carroll > Nick Saban
/hot take
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:21 pm to Samso
quote:
No college coaches should ever be on this list. NFL only.
So a person who invents an offensive or defensive system which is then moved to the pros should not be on the list? What if Walsh, Johnson, or Vermiel stays at Stanford, Miami/oSu, or UCLA does that make them any less of a coach?
How about guys who win at lower levels with less staff members? They maybe better coaches than the big time guys.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:56 pm to sms151t
Tom Landry also invented the shotgun and he had 20 straight winning seasons from 1966-1985.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:03 pm to OU812
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Tom Landry also invented the shotgun and he had 20 straight winning seasons from 1966-1985.
The Shotgun was used by the 49'ers before Landry used it.
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