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Food for Thought - Eliminate Offensive Holding and Pass interference penalties

Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:17 am
Allow offensive holding and pass interference and be done with it.
You can literally call either of those on any play.

1. Not talking about Defensive holding. Receiver has to be allowed to run a free route. Once ball is in the air anything goes.
2. Offense holds almost every down anyway. It can literally be called on any play.
3. Keep targeting of defenseless player penalties

LET THE DOWNVOTES RAIN!!



Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:18 am to
The game would just be guys laying on the ground and punts
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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:23 am to
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Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:24 am to
So make it even easier on offenses. Yeah frick that.

ETA: wait I misread...now it's even worse
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 10:08 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:24 am to
That's a terrible idea.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:26 am to
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1. Not talking about Defensive holding. Receiver has to be allowed to run a free route. Once ball is in the air anything goes.



So safeties can just lay out defenseless receivers who aren't even looking while the ball is in the air. Holy crap this is one of the worst takes on a website full of bad takes.

I know you "address" that above, but a WR will never make a play on the ball ever again to protect their own lives
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:27 am to
No
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:30 am to
Well that would bring the LSU running game back.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:32 am to
So as soon as the ball is in the air, the defender can just tackle any receiver?

They need to go back to the advantage / disadvantage method of officiating.

In situations like holding and PI, a flag is only thrown if one player gains an advantage / puts the opponent at a disadvantage, by commuting the infraction.

Too many "incidental / inadvertent" contact is resulting in penalties, meanwhile, they completely miss the big stuff.

And the "body weight on top of the QB" rule needs to die today. Like, before this Sunday.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:33 am to
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Allow offensive holding


You would literally see offensive lineman Koala Bear hug defensive lineman every play. Does that sound like an improvement to you?
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:33 am to
Lots of people aren’t capable of thinking outside the confines of what’s always been. The truth is holding and PI didn’t used to be the ticky-tack type shite we see today. By turning holding into something so subtle it gives refs the power to control the game and takes it away from the players.

Pass interference being a spot foul is way too punitive. Makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:34 am to
Well the good thing from this post is that I now know to disregard everything baseballcatch77 says in the future
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:34 am to
quote:

You can literally call either of those on any play.


How do you have pass interference on a run?

No one would ever pass the ball anymore. Run the ball and hold.
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
748 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:45 am to
Agree, What we saw last night was an aberration. Just trying to start some discussion on changes. SOMETHING to take away the impact of subjective referee calls.

One guy said all it would be is running. Maybe so, but Id rather that than what we saw last night and NFC championship. At least level the playing field.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13299 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:49 am to
OP is dumb, but I do hate how holding will get called on a block that is carried out on the other side of the field from where the majority of the play is taking place. if the hold didn't affect the call, then don't fricking call it.
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
748 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:52 am to
Agree with all of those. My post, while not perfect, was more about finding a way to eliminate the subjectiveness of those 2 penalties in particular.

1. Most Catches are made in space. So I don't think eliminating PI (while keeping a defenseless player penalty) will completely eliminate a pass game.
I'm thinking it will take away bullshite PI calls on a defensive back reaching around to break up a slant and having his hand on the guys back. Guys can fight while ball is in the air but a Safety cant decleat someone on a ball over the middle.
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:54 am to
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Posted by baseballcatch77
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:55 am to
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