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ELI5: Why is Aaron Rodgers considered a better QB than Brees?

Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:47 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:47 pm
I'm dead serious with this question.
Posted by Will Munny
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:49 pm to
He’s not.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39259 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:51 pm to
Put Rodgers in the Coors Field of the NFL and see what his numbers are. Rodgers is a better QB than Brees.
Posted by IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Member since Aug 2018
1753 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:53 pm to
Because peak Aaron Rodgers is virtually unmatched. Highest QBR in NFL history. Unbelievable talent. The throw in 2016 to end Dallas' season jumps to mind. Brees was elite but also played in a dome with Sean Payton and his throw first philosophy on full display. Rodgers has won in spite of coaching. I'll put it to ya like this, if Rodgers would have played all of those years under Payton instead of Brees, who do you think has the better resume?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69435 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:54 pm to
He's not. Brees is so underrated. Maybe because he played in New Orleans.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75617 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:56 pm to
Idk but he’s not
Posted by Deuce McWin
Canal Street
Member since Aug 2004
1136 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:58 pm to
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Because peak Aaron Rodgers is virtually unmatched.

Same amount of SBs as Brees.
"virtually unmatched"
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51564 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:04 pm to
Brees was in a better offense with more talent around him but Rodgers threw a prettier ball
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:05 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:06 pm to
Definitive rankings

1. Brady
2. Mahomes (will be #1 soon)
3. Rodgers
4. Peyton
5. Montana
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:07 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Brees was in a better offense with more talent around him but Rodgers threw a prettier ball



I'd argue that Brees made the talent around him


Look what happened to everyone that left. Their production went down phenomenally.

Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:13 pm to
OP in absolute shambles rn
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:14 pm to
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OP in absolute shambles rn


No I'm not
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31406 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:38 pm to
Because Rodgers didn't turn the ball over, that's about it. Rodgers had some massive up and down seasons.

Lets compare Rodgers in 2009 (2nd full season) until 2022 (15th season) from age 26 to 39: 207 games
4625/7065 (65.5 completion%)
54688 yards
7.7 YPA
446 TDs (6.3 TD%)
91 INTs (1.3 INT%)
104.6 Rating
487 sacks

vs Brees from 2006 (1st season as a Saint) until 2019 (14th season as a Saint) from age 27 to 40: 216 games
5742/8352 (68.8 completion%)
65068 yards
7.8 YPA
467 TDs (5.6 TD%)
184 INTs (2.2 INT%)
101.3 Rating
315 sacks

What's wild is this:
Rodgers' 4 MVP seasons
63 games:
1422 completions
2079 attempts
68.4 completion%
17438 yards
8.39 YPA
168 TDs
20 INTs
116.96 Rating

Brees 4 top passer rating seasons (3 of which were 2nd place MVP -- one each to Mahomes, Rodgers, and Manning)
57 games
1476 completions
2038 attempts
72.4 completion%
16835 yards
8.26 YPA
139 TDs
34 INTs
112.64 Rating

Its really absurd he didn't win just 1.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:44 pm to
Great post that definitely proves Arod better than Brees both on and off the field


Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2150 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:45 pm to
Brees is probably a better locker room leader. Rodgers can be a headcase.

Brees is definitely more of a guy you buy into. Him and Payton were perfect complements of each other. This has its drawbacks though since you could argue that Brees needed Payton more than Rodgers needed any HC he's had.

Brees is probably on par with Rodgers for sheer accuracy (once the ball left his hands) and he had a very pretty deep ball.

Rodgers is better than Brees in almost every other category though. He has a bigger arm, better mobility, and better size. His improv was great. He threw very few interceptions. Efficiency was off the charts. Despite his gaudy stats I don't believe he was ever top 3 in yards or attempts during a season. Mastered dead ball stuff better than anyone I can remember--hard counts, play clock, timeouts.

And someone check me on this but wasn't their H2H heavily in Rodgers' favor? Something like 5-2 if I had to guess.

They're both elite top 10 QBs and nobody disputes Brees's gift, but Rodgers was just a hair better.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
18014 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Because peak Aaron Rodgers is virtually unmatched.

Unless he was playing literally any 49ers team.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34142 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:46 pm to
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SirWinston



Quit being what you think you are.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13762 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:12 pm to
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Because peak Aaron Rodgers is virtually unmatched. Highest QBR in NFL history. Unbelievable talent. The throw in 2016 to end Dallas' season jumps to mind.


All of this. Rodgers absolute peak is greater than his contemporaries. That throw against Dallas is the best throw I've ever seen
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38224 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:12 pm to
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Same amount of SBs as Brees.


Super Bowl are not a QB stat
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
19925 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Why is Aaron Rodgers considered a better QB than Brees?


He isn’t
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