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re: Eddie Vanderdoes is going to UCLA instead of ND

Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:36 pm to
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So a player should be able to hop around schools at will?


yes.

Kid doesn't/can't make it to the starting lineup at school A, I see no reason why he can't go play for school Z.

Further, kids get shoved down the depth chart all the time for reasons that have little to do with his playing ability...like being hated by his position coach.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:38 pm to
Or your team sucks so you transfer to win a title and opens up all kinds of corruption. Even if you are starting and an all american you could transfer just to win. Your argument and logic are seriously flawed
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:39 pm to
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IF an athlete could only receive a scholly by signing a LOI, I would partly agree with you.


LOI's are designed to only protect the university. A coach can blow a kid out anytime he pleases.

Student-athletes are subject to the whims of the ever changing face of a coaching staff.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 8:49 pm to
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Or your team sucks so you transfer to win a title and opens up all kinds of corruption. Even if you are starting and an all american you could transfer just to win. Your argument and logic are seriously flawed


baseball, softball, wbb, gymnastics, etc etc etc.

None of these sports punish transfers...yet somehow someway they manage to avoid all that evil corruption.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:05 pm to
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LSU316


You are a fricking idiot
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 9:42 pm to
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baseball, softball, wbb, gymnastics, etc etc etc.

None of these sports punish transfers...yet somehow someway they manage to avoid all that evil corruption.


Nailed it.
Posted by Dead Mike
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Member since Mar 2010
4065 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:04 pm to
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stating the facts.

College football recruiting is beyond out of control at this point.

Funny even 20 years ago coaches managed to somehow someway recruit players sans all these toys.

Crazy that.


College football recruiting wasn't out of control when they were (demonstrably, FWIW) paying players under the table?
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:13 pm to
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College football recruiting wasn't out of control when they were (demonstrably, FWIW) paying players under the table?


heh. You don't think this is happening on every major football factory campus today?

Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21227 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 10:29 pm to
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still waiting to hear about this horrible precedent of 18 year olds being allowed to play some where else



its not horrible but what if a player signs a LOI and attends his freshman and sophomore years and then decides he wants more playing time or thinks he is being mistreated.

whats to keep other coachs from constantly recruiting the players you already have on your team.

lets say alabama graduates their quarterback and all they really need is a good QB and the notre dame QB decides to transfer to alabama because they may win the championship that year where as notre dame may not. How is this fair to the notre dame team and university.





I believe if a player wants to get out of his LOI then he should be allowed and let him play that year but he can't get any type of grant or scholarship for the first 2 years he is attending his new university. Let them do like the majority of college students and get a student loan.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 1:23 am to
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lets say alabama graduates their quarterback and all they really need is a good QB and the notre dame QB decides to transfer to alabama because they may win the championship that year where as notre dame may not. How is this fair to the notre dame team and university.


Russell Wilson from Maryland to Wisconsin?

Treat your players well and they will stay. Abuse em and they should have the option to leave.


Works for most "other" division one scholarship sports.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13261 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 5:20 am to
I'm cool with you being a Kings fan, and I respect the Gig 'em, but don't bruin your life with the powder bluies. It's just gross.
Regarding EVD, he's an exceptional talent, but he seems like he is missing something. Maybe it's lack of maturity, or commitment. Something seems odd about this kid. Best of luck to him and his life choices, hope we kick his arse all over the field though.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 5:26 am
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12447 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:23 am to
All this idiots arguing that kids should be able to walk out on their loi would love for about five or six of their team's commitments to walk out, leaving them unable to fill those spots, properly fricking the team.

Hell lane kiffin would tell his silent commits to sign with UCLA, then back out to USC, making his class awesome at the same time screwing his cheif rival.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 8:27 am
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:26 am to
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Russell Wilson from Maryland to Wisconsin?

He played at NC State first and he didn't have to sit out after transferring because he had already graduated. NC State could have chosen to not release him from his scholarship.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 8:29 am to
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None of these sports punish transfers...yet somehow someway they manage to avoid all that evil corruption.


because most of america doesnt give a shite enough about these sports to worry about corruption....why do you think basketball and football are the only 2 sports that enforce this rule? surely, there must be a reason...
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:04 am to
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The reason you don't hear about it is because IT HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.


Yes it has. Heck, it's happened at least TWICE just at SC in the past few years. USC released Seantrel Henderson, the #1 recruit in the country, and he got to go to Miami without penalty.
And USC also released Glen Stanley to FSU without penalty.

So, The Ocean, where was all this outcry from FSU fans, then? Wasn't it a slippery slope when FSU took Stanley.

Face it fans are okay with a kids getting out of his LOI if the kid wants to go to their school, and fans are not okay with it if the kid wants to leave their school. Pretty simple, so save all that "slippery slope", "ruining CF" crap.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:15 am to
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Yes it has. Heck, it's happened at least TWICE just at SC in the past few years. USC released Seantrel Henderson, the #1 recruit in the country, and he got to go to Miami without penalty. And USC also released Glen Stanley to FSU without penalty. So, The Ocean, where was all this outcry from FSU fans, then? Wasn't it a slippery slope when FSU took Stanley. Face it fans are okay with a kids getting out of his LOI if the kid wants to go to their school, and fans are not okay with it if the kid wants to leave their school. Pretty simple, so save all that "slippery slope", "ruining CF" crap.

That all happened when USC was facing a postseason ban. Stanley had to get a release from USC, which would allow him to play right away. Had USC not granted him the release, he would have appealed it and most likely won.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 10:18 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98816 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:18 am to
Great News! Mora doing work

Hopefully that short, fat, angry midget Kelly let's him play this year, so we can see him get a sack on Wettig during the Stomping we are going to give USC again
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 10:23 am to
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ToesOnTheNose213


Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 11:15 am to
Exactly.

It's beyond retarded and hypocritical..."as student athletes" - that suddenly having the potential to play in a devalued bowl game with the other masses...suddenly that means everything for the NCAA to waive their transfer rules.

Oh No! Little boy can't play in a stupid bowl - you can transfer now without penalty.

Bullshite reasoning...the NCAA allows it to allow poaching because they have no problem with member schools to feed on the carcass they left and further weaken the punished.

Can't play in a bowl...transfers rules don't apply...shite, that's funny - people really believe that should mean something.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 11:17 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 11:30 am to
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That all happened when USC was facing a postseason ban


No kidding, not even comparable.

Kiffin promised that there would be no sanctions, and once they came, he had no choice but to let those guys go.
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