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re: Eddie Vanderdoes is going to UCLA instead of ND

Posted on 6/4/13 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Perfect statement and great handling of the situation by BK.


really unsure what else he is supposed to do there? seems fine to me, who knows. this board
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 6:59 pm to
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really unsure what else he is supposed to do there? seems fine to me, who knows. this board



oh look another notre dame fan.

yet more logic
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:01 pm to
yeah...if you aren't going to release them...then just say it...sorry kid, we aren't releasing you.

If someone is falling off a bridge are you going to say..."I'm not going to reach out my hand buddy, but I wish you well."

Huh?

Saying, "we aren't releasing him but we wish him well" is smarmy double-talk...I'm taking all your money but you can buy anything in the store.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:02 pm to
They can not release him because it presents a slippery slope for not only ND but for the rest of country.

Your issue is that he wished him well afterwards? Am I alive?
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:09 pm to
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They can not release him because it presents a slippery slope for not only ND but for the rest of country.

Your issue is that he wished him well afterwards? Am I alive?


it's double talk.

We are fricking you over.

get over it.

;-)
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:13 pm to
Wait what?

He signed a NLI. A binding contract.

Coaches and universities from around the country supported ND and told them to stick firm with this decision.

pls go.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Wait what?

He signed a NLI. A binding contract.

Coaches and universities from around the country supported ND and told them to stick firm with this decision.

pls go.



coaches around the country sign binding contracts all the time.

and toss them to the side like yesterday's toilet paper.

you are what is wrong with college football today...they hypocrisy is out of control
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:20 pm to
Strong logic.

If you release a commit that just changes his mind then a signature on a LOI to your school officially means nothing.

National Signing Day would cease to exist as we know it.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:23 pm to
Comparing a coaches breach of contract to a players =

Two big differences. One, athletes do not have to sign LOIs. Secondly, coaches have specific damage clauses if the contract is breached (obviously the institutions pick up the tab, but really that has nothing to do with a player who signs a LOI).
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:24 pm to
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coaches around the country sign binding contracts all the time. and toss them to the side like yesterday's toilet paper. you are what is wrong with college football today...they hypocrisy is out of control


Horrible, horrible arguments.

Let's also ignore how much money these schools spend on recruiting top end athletes and how this can easily frick schools over because the school could have recruited another player.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Strong logic.

If you release a commit that just changes his mind then a signature on a LOI to your school officially means nothing.

National Signing Day would cease to exist as we know it.



and release said kid from contract damages notre dame how?

not at all...

bullshite statement


bullshite decision

typical notre dame fan.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

coaches around the country sign binding contracts all the time. and toss them to the side like yesterday's toilet paper.

Yes and they pay a penalty for that. This kid is being allowed to go to UCLA and practice, he just can't play this year, which is his penalty for backing out of the contract. Seems fair to me.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:26 pm to
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Horrible, horrible arguments.


YUU MUST BE A NOTRE DAME FANN ERRRGH!!!
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

YUU MUST BE A NOTRE DAME FANN ERRRGH!!!



yes we know the football world revolves around south bend...

...hang in there you might see another title in your lifetime.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36626 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:27 pm to
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unfrickingbelivable.

oh wait

notre dame fan

makes complete sense.



What was wrong with what BK did?

He could have pulled a Gundy and prevented a transfer to UCLA. He could have thrown a fit over his transfer. He didn't. He let him go. (Also, not that it makes a huge difference, but the "closer to home" thing is pretty big B.S. His hometown's more than 400 miles from UCLA. If it was really about being closer to home, he would have chosen Stanford or something. Kelly could have called him out on that, he didn't).

At the same time, he is also not allowing him to play this year, which is the absolute 100% correct thing to do. Doing otherwise sets an absolutely horrible precedent.

EV gets to go to the school of his choice. BK/ND prevents a horrible precedent from being set. Nothing wrong at all here.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Horrible, horrible arguments.

Let's also ignore how much money these schools spend on recruiting top end athletes and how this can easily frick schools over because the school could have recruited another player.


they don't have to.

they don't have to spend money on weight rooms and training tables and giant fricking scoreboards.

that's a choice by these athletic departments.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

EV gets to go to the school of his choice. BK/ND prevents a horrible precedent from being set. Nothing wrong at all here.



right because being allowed to change your mind is a "horrible" precedent.

Of course at Notre Dame rape is okay...

BK is a great man
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36626 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:47 pm to
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right because being allowed to change your mind is a "horrible" precedent.


He signed a contract. He's allowed to change his mind ANY TIME AT NO PENALTY BEFORE NSD. Technically, even after NSD, since he doesn't have to sign that day, either. EV signed a contract with Notre Dame. He's not honoring it. He is still allowed to go to the school of his choice on a full-ride and all that comes with it. He just can't play one season. There's nothing wrong with that.

And yes, it does set a horrible precedent if you allow it to happen. Soon, any kid could sign with ND then think, "nope! I change my mind! Let me go!" That can't happen. It could really hurt the program in regards to recruiting and planning.



This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 7:48 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46191 posts
Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:51 pm to
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they don't have to. they don't have to spend money on weight rooms and training tables and giant fricking scoreboards. that's a choice by these athletic departments.


Dear, God. You never go full retard.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/4/13 at 7:56 pm to
No school in the fricking country would let a guy out of his LOI, especially a big time player like this. I hate notre dame but you are fricking retarded
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