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Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:53 pm to WaterLink
Well it was, but that was a few seasons ago. Obviously a lot can happen in a couple of seasons.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:55 pm to Boomshockalocka
A total inability to own your mistakes is an issue.
If Durant wants Nash gone, he has to admit he and Moonbeam fricked up by pushing for him.
If Durant wants Nash gone, he has to admit he and Moonbeam fricked up by pushing for him.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:57 pm to wildtigercat93
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What’s the solution you’re thinking of exactly?
I don't know and won't even pretend to be well versed in the nuances of the CBA, but the NBA has gone all in on the emphasis of the individual player over the team and that has pretty much permanently turned me away from the league for several years now.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:57 pm to wildtigercat93
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Nash looked lost at times last year
Well yeah. He was coaching a team of assholes who don't listen at all, had one guy who refused to play home games, and another who was so lazy and disinterested they traded him for another guy who also was refusing to play.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Obviously a lot can happen in a couple of seasons.
Clearly. Maybe the players should stick to playing instead of trying to insert lackey coaches with no experience
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:01 pm to shel311
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I'm pretty sure KD is the reason Nash was hired, no?
It's absurd.
Yes and Yes
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:03 pm to wildtigercat93
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I wonder if this is more directed at Nash specifically. The way it’s worded is a bit ambiguous. “Durant or the combination of Marks and Nash”- maybe I’m over complicating it but technically Marks and another coach would be a different combination
I think KD is just throwing shite against the wall b/c the Nets got no real, legitimate interest for him.
Now he has resigned himself to staying in Brooklyn, but he has to make it seem like they caved.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:04 pm to VADawg
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but the NBA has gone all in on the emphasis of the individual player over the team
Well that's not really an NBA thing. That's an economic issue.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Well that's not really an NBA thing
I don't see this in other sports, and the NBA promotes its offseason more than its actual season.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:08 pm to Dr RC
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Well yeah. He was coaching a team of assholes who don't listen at all, had one guy who refused to play home games, and another who was so lazy and disinterested they traded him for another guy who also was refusing to play.
I’m not saying it’s 100 percent his fault or anything- just all the more reason he probably shouldn’t have been hired in the first place. Managing those egos is like the number 1 job of NBA head coaching these days no matter where you coach at and who you are coaching, so despite the rough situation he was in, he definitely will need to get better in that area if he really wants to be a career NBA coach
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:10 pm to VADawg
The NBA does this because it is the smallest “team” sport out there with wide reach.
NFL? 11 players at a time, 24+ positions to be filled per game depending on how many kickers, long snappers, punters, etc you have.
Baseball? 9 players minimum, 10 if using a DH. And most pitching staffs are heavy on long relievers these days.
Basketball? 5 core guys and a standard playoff rotation is about 8 guys total.
NFL? 11 players at a time, 24+ positions to be filled per game depending on how many kickers, long snappers, punters, etc you have.
Baseball? 9 players minimum, 10 if using a DH. And most pitching staffs are heavy on long relievers these days.
Basketball? 5 core guys and a standard playoff rotation is about 8 guys total.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:10 pm to VADawg
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I don't see this in other sports, and the NBA promotes its offseason more than its actual season.
Other sports don’t have the same structure as the NBA that naturally leads to players having a high amount of leverage
They are 1/12 players on a team in a league with 30 teams in a league that brought in 10 billion dollars in revenue last year
There’s not really a comparable sport in terms of player structure/player ability to effect a teams WL, and revenue generation
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:11 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Maybe not but the best part of all this is he was because that is who KD wanted.
just all the more reason he probably shouldn’t have been hired in the first place
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:11 pm to SPEEDY
I didn't think any team could be as dysfunctional as the Knicks, but here we are.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:12 pm to SPEEDY
It’s almost as bad as clamoring to fire Frank Vogel or Spo.
Except those two can coach.
Except those two can coach.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:15 pm to shel311
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Maybe not but the best part of all this is he was because that is who KD wanted.
Sure but at the end of the day, you pick the elite player over the coach 100 times out of 100. There isn’t much of a choice there.
They already did this exact same thing with Kenny Atkinson and Lebron did it with Mike brown a few times
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:17 pm to VADawg
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I don't see this in other sports
Because individuals aren't as valuable in other sports.
Again, it's economic.
There is a reason why a guy like Lebron can lead a team of scrubs to the finals. You don't see that in other sports, either.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:22 pm to SPEEDY
They have tried to trade him. I'm sure they've been in touch with every NBA team with any trading collateral. Still, no deal. I think the NBA has caught up with what KD and Kyrie are trying to get done.
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