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re: Does Mahomes need a ring without Reid and Kelce to truly join the GOAT convo?

Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by McVick
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:41 pm to
Skies the limit for Mahomes.

Even Brady lost two SBs to Eli Manning.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:52 pm to
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He needs to beat a team an all time type team in the SB before he's elevated to anything.

Brady slayed the Greatest show on Turf and the Legion of Boom, both in their absolute prime, and 28-3'd a loaded Falcons team.


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Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Yes. Brady did it without Bill B.


He also did it with a fairly prolific offense in place - one where Winston had thrown 40TDs the year prior. Don’t get me wrong, I do think Brady is the GOAT… but do you really think he wasn’t going to be judicious in where he played after New England?
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:56 pm to
The bigger hurdle for mahomes IMO will be when he loses his scramble ability and some of those plays where he steps through and goes for 20 yards end up as sacks.

I think he’ll be able to adjust but no Reid and no wheels will be interesting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:59 pm to
He should be able to keep that mobility until his mid, possibly late, 30s. Best comparison is Rodgers (who ran a lot more IIRC)
Posted by Tigerfan1274
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:04 pm to
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The bigger hurdle for mahomes IMO will be when he loses his scramble ability and some of those plays where he steps through and goes for 20 yards end up as sacks.


Agree. And one of the things that Brady has on his GOAT resume is performing at the level he did as long as he did. Just like LeBron gets points of this in his debate against Jordan.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:17 pm to
No. Easy answer honestly.

You frickers get too caught up in this stuff
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:52 pm to
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You put him in SF and they win that game by a huge margin.


LOLOLOL

No, they wouldn't have. Mahomes is used to getting the ball out quickly because his Oline is weak. So weak, in fact, that they hold on almost every play. Chokehan would have gotten him sacked repeatedly with his stupid play calls. Prime Brady would have lost this past weekend with that shitty game plan and lack of rush attempts for nearly an entire quarter.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:56 pm to
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who wants to tell him


Appartly as of this post...8 other people don't know.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:02 pm to
I took it to mean Brady won with bill and no gronk then both then gronk and no bill. So every time had a big part of the puzzle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Mahomes is used to getting the ball out quickly because his Oline is weak.

Wut?

KC has an average OL, even with the fail of signing Taylor.

KC has one of the best interior OL trios in the NFL

SF with Mahomes is a potential undefeated team
Posted by Dalosaqy
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:22 pm to
Stop with the GOAT accolades, ffs. Hasn't earned that.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:26 pm to
Montana won 4, 2 were without Rice and one without Walsh.
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:31 pm to
I don't think he'll win another one personally. While obviously a great team, they have also been beyond lucky
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:36 pm to
This is literally all about how you frame it

Mahomes just won his 2nd one without Tyreke Hill who I think everyone would agree is more valuable than Travis Kelce
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Brady slayed the Greatest show on Turf and the Legion of Boom, both in their absolute prime, and 28-3'd a loaded Falcons team.



Brady also lost a SB to a backup QB in Foles.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145199 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:40 pm to
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What is a Brady stan?
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He needs to beat a team an all time type team in the SB before he's elevated to anything.

Brady slayed the Greatest show on Turf and the Legion of Boom, both in their absolute prime, and 28-3'd a loaded Falcons team.

He also threw for 500 yds and never punted and LOST because his head coach benched onenof his top DBs for still unknown reasons.

Mahomes only time facing an all time great at QB, he got slaughtered and has only thrown for 300 yds in 1 SB... Which almost went to double OT.

Mahomes has beat Brock Purdy, Jimmy G and Jalen fricking Hurts....
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:51 pm to
Answer my question….
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:53 pm to
No. I would not put Mahomes ahead of Brady right now
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:56 pm
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