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Did the college rule changes save saban from a surging Kirby?

Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:15 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:15 pm
As far as legacy and ultimately goat? Obviously Kirby has many years left but if it was still east and west and result best players and stack em if your capable of doing so, I’d be comfortable saying he would have 1 more title at least in the cabinet.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
18710 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:28 pm to
Kirby beat Saban exactly 1 time, and it required torn ACLs to Bama’s star receivers to do it. Bama was cooked on offense once Jameson Williams left in the 2nd with Metchie already out from the SECCG when Bama beat the shite out of them

Hell If Marvin Harrison Jr doesn’t go out against OSU in that semifinal, the 1980 drought might very well still be active

As the last 3 seasons have shown, it can easily be argued a decrease in injuries to opposing star receivers is all it took to stem the UGA “surge” compared to NIL or anything else

Saban even got the last laugh in the final SECCG with that mid team that fell to Michigan in the semis

Respect your elders
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 10:59 pm
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
808 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 7:06 am to
It’s moreso a product of the expanded playoff imo. UGA the last couple years has been forced to play in the SECCG it didn’t want to be in and managed to get banged up. Both years I still believe we would have won the natty if not for the stupid SECCG as we blew our load too a few weeks too early.


Also Kirby would have beaten Saban in the 23 SECCG if they correctly called the incomplete pass before half that resulted in a Bama TD, but everyone forgets about that.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
5218 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 8:25 am to
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Kirby beat Saban exactly 1 time, and it required torn ACLs to Bama’s star receivers to do it. Bama was cooked on offense once Jameson Williams left in the 2nd with Metchie already out from the SECCG when Bama beat the shite out of them

Hell If Marvin Harrison Jr doesn’t go out against OSU in that semifinal, the 1980 drought might very well still be active

As the last 3 seasons have shown, it can easily be argued a decrease in injuries to opposing star receivers is all it took to stem the UGA “surge” compared to NIL or anything else

Saban even got the last laugh in the final SECCG with that mid team that fell to Michigan in the semis

Respect your elders


UGA had four starters out in the playoff game against Ole Miss last year. We lost. Ole Miss won.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
27106 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 11:57 am to
I don’t know about ever matching Saban, but I don’t think there’s any question that the recent rule changes limited UGA’s ability to capitalize on the back to back titles from a roster-building perspective.
Posted by MightyJoeYoung
Member since Jul 2026
323 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 12:26 pm to
Under the old rules Kirby would have won 5-6+ titles at Georgia and would be regarded as the same level as Saban.

Even if Saban didn't quit early, he wasn't going to coach til he was 80 and Kirby had potentially 20 more yrs at UGA.

I'm sure Saban's sociopathic mind thought all about that.
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/4/26 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm sure Saban's sociopathic mind thought all about that.

Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
198953 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 12:45 pm to
I'm sure we all have these crazy idiotic thoughts
but we don't all post them
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21964 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:35 pm to
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Kirby beat Saban exactly 1 time, and it required torn ACLs to Bama’s star receivers to do it.


Saban beat Mack Brown exactly 1 time and it required an injury to Texas starting QB on the first series to do it. Just sayin.
This post was edited on 10/4/26 at 2:02 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:42 pm to
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UGA had four starters out in the playoff game against Ole Miss last year. We lost. Ole Miss won.


I thought y'all were supposed to have depth
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13823 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:05 pm to
Kirby can’t defend the vertical passing game. It’s his Achilles heel. The lone win over Saban was due to the vertical passing game being stalled. That’s the only reason he won.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71970 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:10 pm to
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I thought y'all were supposed to have depth



In fairness, quality depth is kind of a thing of the past with the transfer portal. Four and five star athletes no longer have to ride the bench for a year or two before being named the starter.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
22669 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Saban beat Mack Brown exactly 1 time and it required an injury to Texas starting QB on the first series to do it. Just sayin.
So a 5 game sample size where the coach in question was 1-4 vs a 1-game sample size is supposed to add what to this conversation?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15536 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:22 pm to
I can see kicking Saban for his shite comments on save college football act, especially with it having no stipulations for head coaches, their salaries, buy outs, and them leaving while under contract, which is very shitty of him, but you cannot kick at him for what he's done in CFB. Michy st, LSU, and Bama.

He's the GOAT
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
5218 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:33 pm to
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I thought y'all were supposed to have depth


…but Bama isn’t?

We lost.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21964 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

So a 5 game sample size where the coach in question was 1-4 vs a 1-game sample size is supposed to add what to this conversation?


The sauce man was cutting Bama some slack because they had a WR injured. I was simply pointing out a similar scenario.

FTR, Saban and Mack were 1-1 head-to-head. We (LSU) lost to Texas in a bowl game after '02. But alas, our starting QB was hurt so the loss doesn’t count if we're dismissing losses where a key player was out.
This post was edited on 10/4/26 at 2:36 pm
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5337 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:37 pm to
I think the margins just got extremely thin. The SEC leveled up massively, not just at the top but in the middle class. Alabama “regressed” from transcendental all-time dominance to a mere mortal best-in-class program. Georgia improved to best-in-class status at the same time. But previously, behind Alabama there were a handful of talented programs (Georgia included, but also LSU, Auburn) that were good enough to take a game here and there but not really compete as equals… and then a bunch of mediocrity.

Now any given year there’s Georgia, Alabama, probably Texas in that same tier, but like 4 to 6 other teams that can plausibly take games and go on a run to the conference title game. And then there’s another 3 to 4 with the talent and coaching to compete that have horrible injury luck or one brutal positional regression that knocks them out of contending that year, but that have potential to go on a run any given year. It’s just really hard to stay ahead of that many programs putting that many resources into competing.

It’s only gonna get worse, too, as the Big Ten finally catches up with their media deals. They’ve already won the last 3 titles, and on a talent level it’s difficult to argue that their top end can’t compete, since they splattered SEC teams along the way. Their middle class isn’t as good yet, but the money for that is coming.

So, long story short, I’d say Saban got out before the rule changes really leveled the playing field, and that Kirby was more of a harbinger that change was coming. I don’t think Saban’s “legacy” would have been “tarnished” if he hung around and they really fell back to the land of the good but not great. But the trend was obvious and I don’t see anything that would have prevented it. And Kirby’s living with it just as much as anyone else right now, though he’s doing a great job of staying a step above the surging competition.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44334 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 2:49 pm to
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ell If Marvin Harrison Jr doesn’t go out against OSU in that semifinal, the 1980 drought might very well still be active


He was already shut down after his big first quarter.
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