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Did anyone at the time feel like the Patriots botched the Jimmy G trade?

Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:07 am
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:07 am
Hindsight is clearly 20/20, but I, myself, even felt like the Patriots could have gotten a lot more for a starting caliber QB. (They got a 2nd round pick for those unaware). I know that’s fair considering he wasnt completely proven on a full year standard, but the dude was clearly a future starter.

I’m even saying this pretending that I never knew about Jimmy G’s fantastic end to the season. Everyone knew he had it. Could the Patriots have gotten a lot more out of this trade?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:34 am to
What they botched was not keeping him and cutting Brady loose like Bill wanted, Kraft got sentimental.
Posted by BenDover
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:40 am to
I agree. Bill has always subscribed to the “let them go a year early rather than a year too late” theory and I think Kraft got in his way with Brady. Now they’ve got a 40+ year old QB (albeit an elite one) but no replacement in line.

Pats were in a great position post Brady/Belichick with both Jimmy GQ and McDaniels waiting to take the reigns. Not so much now
Posted by blowmeauburn
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:40 am to
Yup The end of the Pats dynasty. Crazy that it could have kept going.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:42 am to
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not keeping him and cutting Brady loose like Bill wanted,


Not what bill wanted.

And if this had happened this board would have a field day as Brady goes on to play at an MVP level and the pats cut him for a guy with 7 starts.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:51 am to
If they truly wanted to trade him then They could have ransomed the Browns during the 2017 Draft. The Browns were ready to deal for him , and if I remember correctly it was for multiple first and second round picks and the Pats held off.


But I don't believe they wanted to. Bill made that decision and only required a second round pick. That shite blows my mind. Someone pissed Bill off because he knew how valuable Jimmy G was. He also trades Brissett for a fricking nobody
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:02 am to
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The Browns were ready to deal for him , and if I remember correctly it was for multiple first and second round picks and the Pats held off.


False report. Most browns ever offered was a 2nd and a 3rd
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:11 am to
No the average Patriots fanboy screamed in victory because they got a second round pick four years after using a second round pick on Jimmy G.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:48 am to
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No the average Patriots fanboy screamed in victory because they got a second round pick four years after using a second round pick on Jimmy G.


That’s pretty good value for a guy who barely played during those 4 years
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:52 am to
Everybody knew it was a bad idea because Bill was grooming him and he would have been a hit in a system he knew inside-out.

What nobody could have predicted was that it would take him 2 weeks to learn a new system with inferior talent and play at a Pro Bowl level. If you thought he would be that good that fast, you were definitely in the minority.
Posted by TechDawg2007
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:41 am to
The 30 for 30 on this will be damn good.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:49 am to
Kind of like the saints and Brees.

Probably should have gone after cousins or garrapolo, or at least draft and prepare like Aaron Rodgers.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:53 am to
In reality - Brady should have been benched this year in favor of Jimmy GOAT.

I really think the Patriots would be SB champs right now had Brady been riding the pine. Jimmy G would have shredded that “Defense” for 600+ yards and 5 touchdowns.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:06 am to
Said at the time they didn't get enough. People were going so far as to claim they didn't trade him to Cleveland to not upset him and he'd re-sign with the Pats in a couple years.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:34 am to
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he'd re-sign with the Pats in a couple years


That was the funniest thing. People on here stating that Jimmy would be a FA after this past season and would just sign with the Patriots again...
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:37 am to
A few behind the scenes things people don't think about:

1) BB wanted to get him out of the AFC

2) BB also wanted to send him someplace where he would have a chance to be successful with a solid offensive coaching staff. Kyle sought out BB during the combine to talk about how he could improve as a coach after 28-3 & apparently they hit it off.

3) Mike Shannahan testified on behalf of Bill in spygate so sending his kid Jimmy G was a bit of a thank you
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:49 am to
I mean it just seems weird that he’s been there for so long and all of a sudden they let him go fo a second.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:51 am to
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I mean it just seems weird that he’s been there for so long and all of a sudden they let him go fo a second.


waited to see if Brady fell off + Kraft interjected. Prob could have gotten more than a 2 but not the haul the Browns might have given in the previous offseason + 3 factors i mentioned above.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:34 am to
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

quote:

Did anyone at the time feel like the Patriots botched the Jimmy G trade?
YES.

And not because of what they got for him. But because they got rid of him.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:44 am to
No and still don’t today
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