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Demaryius Thomas Diagnosed with Stage 2 CTE in Posthumous Examination
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:37 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:37 am
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A painting of the former N.F.L. star rests against a wall in Katina Smith’s home, and Bobby Thomas, his father, keeps the same image on his cellphone. It depicts a cherished moment that now seems foreboding: The two beaming parents flank their son in the moments after his Denver Broncos won Super Bowl 50 as Demaryius looks downward with a pained expression, scratching the back of his head.
Demaryius Thomas died in December at 33, mere months after retiring from a Pro-Bowl career in the N.F.L. in which his charisma, humility and team-first ethos on the field made him a favorite of teammates and fans. Those closest to him said his behavior became increasingly erratic in the last year of his life, which was marked by the memory loss, paranoia and isolation that are hallmarks of chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the degenerative brain disease linked to repeated head hits.
On Tuesday, doctors from Boston University announced that Thomas was posthumously diagnosed with Stage 2 C.T.E., but his life and death were also complicated by seizures brought on by a 2019 car crash. They attacked with little or no warning and led Thomas to wreck other cars and fall down steps. The coroner’s office in Fulton County, Ga., has not yet ruled on the cause of his death, but doctors in Boston said he most likely died after a seizure.
“He had two different conditions in parallel,” said Dr. Ann McKee, the neuropathologist who studied Thomas’s brain. She added that seizures were not generally associated with C.T.E.
Because of the dual conditions, Thomas’s C.T.E. diagnosis does not bring the neat clarity that has punctuated other N.F.L. players’ demises. His family, friends and former teammates will not know how much football is responsible for Thomas’s struggles and are only now coming to grips with the extent to which he suffered.
His parents said Demaryius stopped returning their text messages and calls, and Bobby recalled that his paranoia grew to the point that he never left home without a gun.
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:47 am to Bench McElroy
Why does this only seem to affect football players?
Dont hear much about it in NHL
Dont hear much about it in NHL
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:50 am to Cosmo
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Dont hear much about it in NHL
Hmmmmmmmm.....
What good would it do to promote this in the NHL? Would it get any attention at all? Would anyone care a bunch of white dudes were going brain dead for our entertainment?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:52 am to Cosmo
Same with rugby
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:52 am to Bench McElroy
Even if a link between football and CTE is found, nothing would change. The NFL is a money machine, players will still be willing to risk for a big payday, and people want to be entertained. That is the system and any threat to that system will meet strong resistance. It’s the cold hard truth.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:53 am to Bench McElroy
Seizures fricking suck man. The symptoms leading up to them are bad too. The medicine they give you will let you get right to the edge of having one but not have it. It’s weird
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:54 am to Cosmo
I think it’s the continual hitting the ground in football that also doesn’t help.
Is the NHL comparable in terms of violent hits to the head? I’d imagine it’s second to football among the major sports but I wonder how big the gap is. Seems like the answer could lie there.
Is the NHL comparable in terms of violent hits to the head? I’d imagine it’s second to football among the major sports but I wonder how big the gap is. Seems like the answer could lie there.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:55 am to boosiebadazz
Way less
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:05 am to boosiebadazz
You can go weeks in the NHL without getting hit to the equivalent of 1 tackle in the NFL.
The NFL has head contact on every snap for 130 snaps every week. There’s not much of a comparison to be had.
The NFL has head contact on every snap for 130 snaps every week. There’s not much of a comparison to be had.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:08 am to Bench McElroy
What sport could compare to the CTE damage of boxing and MMA? Yet it's crickets around those violent sports.
This country sure does pick and chose what they want to be indignant at.
This country sure does pick and chose what they want to be indignant at.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:20 am to bamameister
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What sport could compare to the CTE damage of boxing and MMA? Yet it's crickets around those violent sports.
Thats because football is more harmful to your body than MMA.
Boxing is awful too. That's why the sport is dying.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:23 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Football has way, way more contact incidents to the head that don’t cause immediate injury than the NHL. CTE is caused moreso by a thousand paper cuts, not just a few bad concussions over a career.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:26 am to bamameister
I wouldn’t say it’s crickets in boxing or mma. I think it’s just that it’s also very obvious that they accept that risk. Whereas with football, for years we assumed the helmet was providing protection.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:29 am to Cosmo
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Dont hear much about it in NHL
Gotta look for it to find it. True, head-to-head contact is rare. But Derek Boogaard had CTE, and I'd all but guarantee that Paul Kariya and Theo Fleury do, too. Can't diagnose outside of an autopsy.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:39 am to Cosmo
I’d be more curious of how prevalent it is in boxing and MMA.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:43 am to cas4t
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I wouldn’t say it’s crickets in boxing or mma. I think it’s just that it’s also very obvious that they accept that risk. Whereas with football, for years we assumed the helmet was providing protection.
CTE and football reports have been out there for decades. Players and parents have heard the risk associated with these concussions and trauma down to peewee age. It's a choice at this point.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:48 am to PeteRose
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Even if a link between football and CTE is found, nothing would change.
The link is pretty conclusive at this point even though CTE can only be diagnosed post-mortem.
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Duration of American football played demonstrated a strong dose–response relationship with CTE neuropathology, doubling odds of disease every 2.6?years and doubling odds of severe disease among those with CTE every 5.3?years. Players with CTE were 1/10th as likely to have played <4.5?years and were 10 times as likely to have played >14.5?years compared with players without CTE. The sensitivity and specificity for classifying CTE based on duration played were maximized at approximately 11?years played. Even under conditions of extreme brain bank selection, the estimated magnitude of the relationship between duration played and CTE status remained consistent.
Duration of playing football and CTE study
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:10 am to Bench McElroy
I know it’s not football related….but man I REALLY worry about Johnny Knoxville developing CTE at some point. He’s had probably 10X more concussions than DT88 or even just the average player
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:59 am to bamameister
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It's a choice at this point.
Totally agree
Just stating that combat sports, its even more obvious that you accepting an inherent risk
You’re fighting for a living…
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:20 am to Cosmo
Multiple subconcussive blows, OL, boxers etc.
my brother played LB at Weat Alabama. Before he died he was struggling mentally. His wife chose not to to a brain section but his doctor said it was a high probability he had CTE with his symptoms.
my brother played LB at Weat Alabama. Before he died he was struggling mentally. His wife chose not to to a brain section but his doctor said it was a high probability he had CTE with his symptoms.
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