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re: Davis Mills is climbing up the draft boards. Could be the 6th QB drafted in Round 1
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:54 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:54 pm to wildtigercat93
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If he’s good, he’s never going to see that 5th year anyway because he’ll get extended
If he’s bad, you’ll decline the option
carolina is apparently picking up Darnold's option.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:00 pm to Chad504boy
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carolina is apparently picking up Darnold's option.
Yeah the Jets were in that 3rd bucket of royally fricking up so much that you can’t even tell if they are good or not
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
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NFL Draft expert Matt Miller
Aka a garbage bleacher report amateur with a podcast who pretends he has league sources.
He had some horrendous rumors he swore by the past draft or two that turned out so wrong.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
QBs are so overvalued in the draft it’s getting to be ridiculous. Of the 14 QBs drafted top 5 from 08 to 2018 only 5 remained with the team who drafted them. Take the player not the position.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:47 pm to Madking
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QBs are so overvalued in the draft it’s getting to be ridiculous. Of the 14 QBs drafted top 5 from 08 to 2018 only 5 remained with the team who drafted them.
I mean, taking other position carries the same risk without the franchise changing potential
Really hard to find a QB if you don’t devote valuable resources to doing so in the draft.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:07 pm to wildtigercat93
You can’t tell me reaching for Mitch Trubisky carried the same risk as just taking Solomon Thomas or Jamal Adams or Chris McCaffrey or Marshon Lattimore or Mike Williams or even Leonard Fournette. It’s one example but it happens pretty much every year and has crushed franchises when we’ve seen the opposite work much more effectively. Build a strong roster, get a solid QB who can keep you afloat until you can get someone that can take you to the next level. Hell the 49ers played for a super bowl multiple times in the past decade using that model.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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Mond will be a second rounder. If he knew how to play QB he’d probably be an early first rounder but I don’t think that light is ever going to come on for him. He’s got insane attributes but at some point you’ve gotta question what you’re looking at given how much experience in a good offensive system with talent he’s had and he’s never been able to put it together
Mond kind of reminds me physically like Jordan Love from last year.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:26 pm to SeaBass23
If Mond couldn't improve with 6 years of starting at A&M he's a lost cause. He'll make some money though. Career backup at best.
Whatever team drafts him is the equivalent of the girl trying to fix the serial cheater - "I can change him"
Whatever team drafts him is the equivalent of the girl trying to fix the serial cheater - "I can change him"
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:30 pm to Madking
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You can’t tell me reaching for Mitch Trubisky carried the same risk as just taking Solomon Thomas or Jamal Adams or Chris McCaffrey or Marshon Lattimore or Mike Williams or even Leonard Fournette.
This is a logical fallacy and just absurd
The decision to take a QB early when you need one is a separate decision than what QB you take.
I could just as easily make fun of those teams for taking the players you mentioned over QBs from the same draft that panned out like Watson and Mahommes
Positional value is absolutely something you should factor into when drafting.
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Hell the 49ers played for a super bowl multiple times in the past decade using that model.
Alex Smith was a #1 overall pick and Kaep was a second rounder
Jimmy G was traded for for a second rounder, and now they’ve invested a ton of capital to draft another QB because none of those options panned out long term
They used considerable resources to try to get better at the position.
And again it is possible to find your QB without investing heavy draft resources, it’s just extremely hard and rare to do so it’s not something that usually ends well if you try to plan it that way.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:11 pm to Buckeye06
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years.
Marcus Mariota had EVERYTHING you could want in a QB based on what the experts said 5 or so years ago. Size, dual threat, accuracy etc. He's a 77/45 career TD to INT passer. It's impossible to predict in a 5 year period since GMs/Coaches will get hired/fired, weapons will leave/join/get hurt, OL will leave or develop.
He was scheme dependent, making reads that don’t translate to the NFL game and had superior talent surrounding him.
Rodgers
Brees
Mahomes
Rivers
Ben
Josh Allen
Lamar
You know why these guys translated to the NFL? Look at their college programs right before they got there and after they left.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:15 pm to wildtigercat93
Mills is like a poor man's Tom Savage
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:38 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Mills is like a Peyton Manning
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:55 pm to VADawg
quote:These picks make no sense to me. These people I’ve never heard of get taken high because they have the “tools” and “measurables”. When’s the last time someone who was average to poor on college succeeded in the NFL?
He was hurt a ton in college and has less experience than Mitch Trubisky did coming out.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:07 pm to red sox fan 13
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These picks make no sense to me. These people I’ve never heard of get taken high because they have the “tools” and “measurables”
My guess is you’re cherry picking a lot here.
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When’s the last time someone who was average to poor on college succeeded in the NFL?
You’re gonna have to define what average or poor college success means if you want an answer
But there are tons of examples of guys with less than stellar college resumes becoming extremely good players or elite on the next level
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
Now Mills I like. Better than Fields and Mac. He'd look good in a Steelers uni.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:15 pm to wildtigercat93
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It’s a total crap shoot
Ding, ding, ding.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:20 pm to wildtigercat93
They didn’t draft Alex Smith and he didn’t lead them to the super bowl and they didn’t draft Jimmy G either. You use a 2nd round pick to compare to a top 5 or upper first rounder which is ridiculous and completely irrelevant. Your examples are straw men and you can’t argue the facts on risk because the fact is you’re setting yourself up for a near 70% fail rate using your logic.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:25 pm to Madking
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They didn’t draft Alex Smit
What?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:26 pm to wildtigercat93
Harbaugh and the group that built the 2012 49ers did not draft Alex Smith. Neither did he take that team to a super bowl.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:27 pm to Madking
They didn’t take them to that 2018 super either so are we counting across different front offices or not?
The point is they dedicated a ton of draft capital to try to get a Super Bowl caliber QB. Simple as that
The point is they dedicated a ton of draft capital to try to get a Super Bowl caliber QB. Simple as that
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 7:28 pm
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