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re: DAT Official Offseason Thread...RIP the A. Bregman years

Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:02 am to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24949 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Wagner is tracking well for the HoF. Got about 10 more days till announcement


I'm all for it

I remember when I heard the stat for the game he pitched in Div 3 or whatever small school he was at for the first time, where he struck out 23 batters in a 7 inning game, and thought it was a misprint.

I think it was the first time I realized that you could get more than 3 Ks in an inning.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63396 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:08 am to
I wonder if we will retire his number if he gets in. I’d support it personally
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102323 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:28 am to
Known idiot Jon Heyman once again didn't vote for Wagner because he didn't have post season success. Because 11.2 innings of rough post season outings apparently undo 900+ innings of dominance over 16 years. So on the flip side if he was great in the post season, ohhh those 11 innings are the ticket in. Those 11 innings are the difference maker there.


Dumbass.


Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
3263 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:52 am to
Our friend Keith Law left him off as well. More from Keith:

quote:

CC Sabathia is the other new candidate for whom I voted, and he just squeaks over the line for me; his performance is quite comparable to that of Andy Pettitte, for whom I have never voted, but Sabathia’s reputation around the game as a clubhouse leader and the way he has used his voice and stature after his playing career to speak out about racial inequities in the game are separating factors for me.


Baseball writers
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
11533 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:52 am to
Baseball writers are the worst.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:43 pm to
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the way he has used his voice and stature after his playing career to speak out about racial inequities in the game are separating factors for me.


This should immediately get his voting priveleges revoked.

HoF votes are supposed to be based on players days as a player. Full stop.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24949 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:09 pm to
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the way he has used his voice and stature after his playing career to speak out about racial inequities in the game are separating factors for me.


Yeah, and the way he put his personal priorities like alcoholism first, above his one game playoff to make the playoffs vs the Astros.

Just sets him apart.

Really sets him apart.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102323 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:24 pm to
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and the way he has used his voice and stature after his playing career to speak out about racial inequities in the game are separating factors for me.



We're all dumber for having read this.


I'm going main board with this one. I'm always up for communal baseball writers bashing.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24538 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:40 pm to
Bregs really not gonna sign til spring training isn’t he?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102323 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:47 pm to
The Boras Method.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4683 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Bregs really not gonna sign til spring training isn’t he?


I certainly don't have any ill will towards the guy but this isn't looking great for his $200M dream deal. It seems like he's down to two suitors: the Tigers and the Red Sox. The Tigers aren't going to give him $200M and the Red Sox know this.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102323 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:26 pm to
He would thrive in Fenway. He's always hit well there but I think he'd be a doubles machine. Dude could bang doubles off the monster endlessly. That left center cut out at MMP has never done him any favors where LF can pinch that gap setting up at the corner of the boxes.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

The Tigers aren't going to give him $200M and the Red Sox know this.


I think he ends up in Detroit on a 1+1 type of deal, similar AAV to Correa's first contract with the Twins.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

left handed power hitting corner OF from Cuba


from cbsports.com
quote:

The Astros signed Alvarez for $2 million Wednesday, Ben Badler of Baseball America reports.

A 6-foot-4, 185-pound outfielder from Cuba, Alvarez bats left-handed and is currently hit-over-power, having just recently shot up to his current height. However, the belief is that he has massive power potential as he adds muscle to his frame. He isn't a burner, although he plays a fine center field, so his bat will have to carry the day as far as his dynasty value is concerned.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84301 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:31 pm to
Yeah, like the article references, that swing is very Paul O'Neill.
Posted by DalenSA
2024 DAT RotY
Member since Jan 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:22 am to
70 days until Opening Day
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84301 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63396 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:26 pm to
He’s going to end up signing a similar deal to what we offered with Detroit or Toronto and be left regretting it
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102323 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:41 pm to
Take a fair market deal and become a franchise icon for your entire career


[Seek more than you're worth and sign a 2 year deal for less money and opt out to do this all again next year]

Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24538 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:38 pm to
On the other hand I did see Santander is willing to take a short term deal…
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