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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition
Posted on 2/19/23 at 12:07 am to Cliff Booth
Posted on 2/19/23 at 12:07 am to Cliff Booth
He was offered the same deal Yed took and declined
So him moving on is pretty much baked in
So him moving on is pretty much baked in
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:50 am to wahoocs
Kyle Tucker is gone.
I do believe we have three more years with him, so let’s just enjoy the runoff panocha while we can.
I do believe we have three more years with him, so let’s just enjoy the runoff panocha while we can.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:32 am to St Jean The Baptiste
Uncle Mike is getting some work at 1B today.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:10 am to Lsuhoohoo
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@MarkBermanFox26
Jose Altuve on GM Dana Brown saying he wants to extend Jose Altuve beyond 2024 when his contract expires, keeping Jose here for good: “I like when he said that. I have been all my career here and I hope to retire here. I think we’re on the same page.”
Posted on 2/19/23 at 1:13 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I'm bringing over a Twitter debate I saw...
Where do yall put Altuve with iconic franchise players? Its Biggio and Bagwell now, our lifer hall of famers. They've got the longevity and most statistical marks.
Biggio played 20 seasons, Bagwell had 15 and this will be Altuves 13th. He's pretty well approaching 3rd place behind those guys in most offensive categories. Can we go ahead and put Altuve on the Astros Mt Rushmore with Biggio and Bagwell.
Where do yall put Altuve with iconic franchise players? Its Biggio and Bagwell now, our lifer hall of famers. They've got the longevity and most statistical marks.
Biggio played 20 seasons, Bagwell had 15 and this will be Altuves 13th. He's pretty well approaching 3rd place behind those guys in most offensive categories. Can we go ahead and put Altuve on the Astros Mt Rushmore with Biggio and Bagwell.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 1:18 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Altuve’s playoff achievements alone put him past both of them, if he never plays another game
JMO
JMO
Posted on 2/19/23 at 1:25 pm to Lsuhoohoo
He's numero uno.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 2:54 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Brought the big prize home twice, just like Olajuwon.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:06 pm to markinkaty
He’s the all-time Astro. We have a lot of popular franchise greats going back to the franchise’s inception and I still love many of them. But the two titles put him above Biggio, Bagwell and Ryan.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:14 pm to Domeskeller
Especially since he helped bring them out of the 110 loss seasons.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:19 pm to Domeskeller
Yeah, GOAT. More interesting convo is probably who you’d put 4th.
The franchise should prioritize having him retire in Houston and being a visible part of the organization in retirement, similar to Bags and Biggio.
I know you don’t want to pay older guys for past performance, but when a guy is that beloved by a fan base I think you make an exception. Similar to Jeter.
The franchise should prioritize having him retire in Houston and being a visible part of the organization in retirement, similar to Bags and Biggio.
I know you don’t want to pay older guys for past performance, but when a guy is that beloved by a fan base I think you make an exception. Similar to Jeter.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:24 pm to Cliff Booth
I think the question is whether Altuve can hang at 2B in his late years. It’s been iffy lately but he gets by. The presence of Alvarez is gonna make it hard to DH him
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The shift was his friend. It’ll be interesting.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:28 pm to Cliff Booth
Yeah I’m a little concerned about it
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:30 pm to Cliff Booth
Good point about that. Making a definitive Top 5.
As for GOAT, Jose has already been an All-Star more than both Bagwell and Biggio as well. Now let's look at the playoffs, where Jose has a .844 OPS compared to .685 for Bags and .618 for Biggio.
A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B's
Top 5 Astros
Altuve
Bagwell
Biggio
Berkman
Cruz
Honorable Mention
Ryan
Oswalt
Dierker
As for GOAT, Jose has already been an All-Star more than both Bagwell and Biggio as well. Now let's look at the playoffs, where Jose has a .844 OPS compared to .685 for Bags and .618 for Biggio.
A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B's
Top 5 Astros
Altuve
Bagwell
Biggio
Berkman
Cruz
Honorable Mention
Ryan
Oswalt
Dierker
Posted on 2/19/23 at 3:43 pm to Jwho77
Even though his Astros career was brief I think you have to put Verlander in the honorable mentions. Only Astro with multiple Cy Young’s, will finish as the franchise leader in a lot of the pitcher rate type stats, part of two championship teams. Just my opinion
Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:15 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Agreed.
In fact, if you needed a pitcher in their prime with us to start one must-win game, you'd have to pick from JV, Oswalt and 1986 Scott. After them, Ryan (I'm being a bit kind here), Clemens, Hampton, Richard (so short of a prime), Niekro, Cole, 2015 Keuchel and Dierker.
In fact, if you needed a pitcher in their prime with us to start one must-win game, you'd have to pick from JV, Oswalt and 1986 Scott. After them, Ryan (I'm being a bit kind here), Clemens, Hampton, Richard (so short of a prime), Niekro, Cole, 2015 Keuchel and Dierker.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
I think the question is whether Altuve can hang at 2B in his late years. It’s been iffy lately but he gets by. The presence of Alvarez is gonna make it hard to DH him
Yeah, Altuve was an all time great until this past postseason. what happened?
Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:19 pm to Tiger Ugly
What?
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:21 pm to Jwho77
quote:
In fact, if you needed a pitcher in their prime with us to start one must-win game, you'd have to pick from JV, Oswalt and 1986 Scott. After them, Ryan (I'm being a bit kind here), Clemens, Hampton, Richard (so short of a prime), Niekro, Cole, 2015 Keuchel and Dierker.
If we’re talking in-their-prime must-win game, the top of that list is JR Richards. Everyone else on your list are good options, sure.
But James Rodney Richards in his prime beats every one of them.
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