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re: DAT celebration: Springer is coming! Harrell DFA'd

Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:44 am to
Posted by BamaHater
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:44 am to
Craig Biggio wore #4 in his Astros Debut. Sign of things to come?

This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:45 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:46 am to
I'll be happy if spring get ends up as good as pence.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:53 am to
Before someone says I'm comparing Springer to Trout, I'm not and don't expect a Trout type player....


quote:

Andrew Simon ?@AndrewSimonMLB

No comp, but just for fun...
Springer MiLB: 284 G, 1264 PA, .959 OPS, 135 XBH, 85 SB.
Trout MiLB: 286 G, 1312 PA, .941 OPS, 114 XBH, 108 SB
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:00 am to
Glad I'll get to see his debut live. Thanks CSN Houston
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Before someone says I'm comparing Springer to Trout, I'm not and don't expect a Trout type player....


quote:
Andrew Simon ?@AndrewSimonMLB

No comp, but just for fun...
Springer MiLB: 284 G, 1264 PA, .959 OPS, 135 XBH, 85 SB.
Trout MiLB: 286 G, 1312 PA, .941 OPS, 114 XBH, 108 SB



This thread is now back on track!!!
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:12 am to
Big difference there is Trouts MiL K% was 16%. Springer's K rate is 26%. FWIW, Trout has a 21% ML K rate.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:16 am to
If those numbers are similar, why are the K rates relevant?

Maybe if the K rate wasn't so high, Springer's numbers would be WAY better than Trouts!
Posted by AgTiger55
Houston
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:18 am to
For all the crap we've taken over the past 3 years, today is a glimpse into the future for the tried and true Astros fans. Fans of other teams can laugh at us about how excited we're getting about this but those fair-weather fans would have turned into Ranger or Braves fans 3-4 years ago when the process was started.

I tip my hat to all of my fellow Astros fans. It's officially started.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:21 am to
well if we assume a rise in K rate, Springer is likely gonna strikeout at a Kris Karter like pace. Prepare yourself. Springer won't hit for average and he's gonna strike out a ton. Unlike Karter though, Springer actually brings value in other ways. So he's not totally useless if he strikes out a ton. Scary fact...Springers minor league k rate is higher than Karters minor league k rate.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:25 am to
That's true. He is going fan a bunch but hopefully walks a bunch and steals bases while adding 25 hr
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:27 am to
There's no one....ever....will be as useless as Kris Karter.

Eh. VER.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:28 am to
Astros should hope for a faster, less powerful Adam Dunn
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:29 am to
quote:

There's no one....ever....will be as useless as Kris Karter.
Carlos Lee at the end of his Astros career was pretty usless as well. When fans in the Crawford boxes booed him on the reg. you know things were bad
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13545 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:30 am to
Next question is who replaces Lucas Harrell in the rotation?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Carlos Lee at the end of his Astros career was pretty usless as well. When fans in the Crawford boxes booed him on the reg. you know things were bad



E.VER!

My disdain for Karter rivals no one.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:31 am to
Clemens or Peacock.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101928 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:32 am to
I've seen Mike Cameron as a comp for him. Cameron regularly played good defense, was good for double digit walk rate, 20 homers and 20 steals.

Cameron's per 162:
.249 88 runs 32 doubles 5 tripled 23HR 80RBI 25SB 72 walks 158 strikeouts.

I'd be thrilled if Springer could regularly post that season.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28164 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

C insinuated that there was no use for him to play RF in the minors to play at the MLB and that's just ridiculous.


BS. Luhnow's position was the he can't be brought up until he learns to play RF. Which I think is BS. And everyone knows is BS. Springer played RF the previous years. And if it was that important, why are you platooning him at CF? Its BS. They want contract leverage and have been screwing the fans and making bad long term business decisions. My prediction is that you will not see the Astros in the playoffs more than 1 time over the next 5 years and they will be in the bottom 5 in attendance over the next 10 years.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288472 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

. A line drive hit by a left-handed batter from an inside curve ball is one of the most difficult to judge in the outfield. And almost all of those hits end up in RF.


and you're going say something like this, then in the next breath say "you can tell people havent played baseball in this thread?"


What exactly do you think a ball does off a LH bat when hit to RF? Im cracking up over here.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28164 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

about how excited we're getting about this


this is all I'm talking about. We as fans have been foaming at the mouth for these highly talented prospects to be on display.
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