re: DAT 7/31: Tampa Bay (Cobb) @ Houston (Morton) 7:10 CT - DEADLINE DAY EDITION

There's a better chance that Armenteros or Deetz gets a chance to help out of the bullpen.

Here are my thoughts regarding everything (I doubt anybody cares and this will probably be way too long)


I 100% understand being upset about the lack of moves today. I wish we could've made some more stuff happen as well

I'm sure its amplified since today is deadline day, but I really think alot of folks are not looking at the big picture. This team will be a force in the AL for the foreseeable future. This isn't 2005 where its an all or nothing year. It would be extremely short sighted to trade away big pieces of our (near) future just to slightly increase our chances of making a WS run this season. Not to mention I'm not sure there are any moves we could've made to surpass the Dodgers as heavy favorites. I'm not saying that any fan being upset is wrong I guess I'm just trying to point out a different perspective


A couple thoughts regarding the rest of this season:

1. My biggest concern at this point (besides health) is the clubhouse getting discouraged by the lack of moves like some have mentioned. Would be such a shame to see the season end on that note. I really hope someone in that locker room turns this into a "well now everybody is counting us out and disrespecting us" type thing

2. I think its safe to say that Luhnow's biggest weakness is the trade deadline. Obviously thats fresh on everyones minds, but I think it'd be VERY irrational to start saying he's not cut out for this job. This past offseason was full of brilliant moves and he has proven time and time again that he is among the best when it comes to the draft as well as finding diamonds in the rough. The Liriano move has all the signs of being another example of this

3. While I may not feel as confident as I did a month or 2 ago, I absolutely still believe this team is more than capable of making a deep postseason run THIS YEAR. Everybody knows that come October, it's all about the team who gets hot at the right time. I know the Yankees are going to be the most talked about team, but I honestly still probably fear Cleveland more. We have played NYY great over the last few years, and them adding Sonny Gray (a pitcher our guys have seen numerous times) certainly improves them but doesn't separate them from us IMO. I certainly dont feel confident in facing LA (or even CHC) in a series, but if we even got to that point then anything can happen

Again, today sucked no doubt about it. I just don't think it should negate where this franchise currently stands. We have had an incredible season thus far, and are set up to have many more like it. Spend the rest of the day/week melting....but don't waste too much time missing out on rooting for this incredibly fun team. We're on to Cincinnati

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I think what it boils down to is this: Lunhow is a numbers guy, but perhaps not a gifted dealmaker and tactician. There's very much an art to understanding the market and reading people (and incentives) that goes beyond just having sick data and a good scouting system.

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Coming from the guy who posted this...

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Does Jeff Luhnow post in here? I was talking about personally attacking other posters. Its childish.

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There is no moral high ground for you here

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What the hell are you talking about. I'm done with this conversation.

If you make personal attacks against other posters, you will not like the result. That's all I'm saying.


You can trash Luhnow all day, but he doesn't post here.


I have no beef with you, just don't expect to have good baseball discussions with your type of commenting.

Here's what I think happened.

Luhnow probably had a deal in place for Britton, but the Orioles owner would not sign off on it.

The Padres price never came down for Hand because Preller.

Thoughts of trading for an expensive starter were nixed because of concerns about DK and LMJ. If those two aren't healthy and in form come October, we aren't winning anything.

I think what many are saying but not directly is that special seasons like this happen once in a lifetime. Once in the Astros history.

Many have learned you must strike when the irons hot bc it's very possible it never happens again.

Do you trade away the farm for one year. Maybe. Prospects are merely unproven potential.

With the injuries and bullpen issues a couple of big arms would have given this team a much better chance to have success in the postseason. Instead of being perennial runner ups.

Luhnow didn't earn it today.

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I continue to argue that NOBODY on this board knows the full situation of what went on behind the scenes and the reactions are beyond absurd.

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But we know what deals got done elsewhere and we as fans reserve the right to speculate on what those deals could have looked like. The deals done elsewhere are indicators of what could have got done from our end...thats all we've got and we're running with it until we hear otherwise.

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Again, today sucked no doubt about it.

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Not if Sipp is gone.

The only other play would've been a starting pitcher.

And people that thought it was going to be the Rangers ace for rental duty are crazy.

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I hear you, but these windows seem to close faster than people expect.

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Exactly, even if you have the same exact roster the season's dont always pan out. Just look at the Royals and Blue Jays...they had two of the best teams in the league and now look whats become of those teams...especially the Royals...