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re: DAT: 2023-2024 Off Season Thread
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:57 pm to wahoocs
Posted on 1/23/24 at 4:57 pm to wahoocs
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For Joel Sherman, Chase Utley is a hall of famer but Billy Wagner is not.
East Coast bias. New York writer who probably remembers nothing but Wagner's postseason struggles with the Mets in the 2006 NLCS.
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:09 pm to Domeskeller
That's it for the pre-annoucement ballots.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:19 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Beltre, Mauer and Helton. Wags didn't make it.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:21 pm to Lsuhoohoo
He missed it by 5 votes 
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:35 pm to 5 Deep
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He missed it by 5 votes
I warned yall it was coming.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:39 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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I warned yall it was coming.
Yes, but do you really think most of us did not already see it coming?
Jose Altuve can play another 10 years, end up with 4,000 hits and win 3 more MVPs, he will never get voted into the HOF simply because of the East Coast and West Coast bias of the bulk of the HOF voters.
I'm not saying Altuve is currently a HOF worthy player, but if he does play another 5 years at current levels, he at the minimum should be considered over Utley. But he will never get close to the votes because of banging trash cans.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:52 pm to Floating Change Up
Altuve likely gets in but asshurt writers on the east and west coast will make him wait. Probably until his last year on the ballot.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:11 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Altuve likely gets in but asshurt writers on the east and west coast will make him wait. Probably until his last year on the ballot.
Absolutely the only way even this happens is if it is coincidentally the first year for Judge to be on the ballot.
I can see voters voting him in first ballot and voting Altuve in on last ballot just as a final "frick you".
Honestly, I don't see Altuve making it because of 2017.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 6:29 pm to Floating Change Up
You guys are delusional or just pulling each other’s legs
Altuve would have to have a career ending injury
He holds or will hold almost every offensive playoff record in history when he’s done
I could see some backlash if he were an a-hole, but he’s genuinely kind and loved by all players
I’ll take any odds, Vegas or anywhere else
Altuve would have to have a career ending injury
He holds or will hold almost every offensive playoff record in history when he’s done
I could see some backlash if he were an a-hole, but he’s genuinely kind and loved by all players
I’ll take any odds, Vegas or anywhere else
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:33 pm to wahoocs
On a more positive note.
I saw this quote on a twittersphere and couldn’t help but hear Brad saying, “how can you not be romantic about baseball?”
I saw this quote on a twittersphere and couldn’t help but hear Brad saying, “how can you not be romantic about baseball?”
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When Joe calls me that I’m gonna be the bench coach, I was on the couch with my dog and my wife, and I gotta be honest I started crying,” #Astros bench coach Omar Lopez said after being told his promotion. “I didn’t think this promotion was coming.”
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:39 pm to Floating Change Up
Yall are crazy. If Altuve retires this second he's in the HOF. Maybe not first ballot, but the writers would have even less credibility than they already have if they don't vote him in. They would be grade A morons.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:42 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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They would be grade A morons.
Well....
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:22 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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They would be grade A morons.
That is kind of the point I was trying to make.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:07 pm to Floating Change Up
CF option for depth?
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Aaron Hicks: By late May, it wasn’t clear how much longer Hicks would remain in the big leagues. He was released by the Yankees as he seemed en route to a third straight poor season. The Orioles somewhat surprisingly added him on a big league deal. From that point, the switch-hitting Hicks had a resurgence. He closed the year with a .275/.381/.425 slash over 236 plate appearances in Baltimore. Hicks walked at a massive 14.8% clip while striking out only 20.8% of the time. That won’t erase the memories of his struggles toward the end of his tenure in the Bronx, but it should land him a guaranteed MLB roster spot again. He’d be essentially a free pickup for whatever teams signs him. The Yankees are still on the hook for next year’s $9.5MM salary and a $1MM buyout on a 2025 option. A signing team would only pay Hicks at the $740K league minimum rate for whatever time he spends on the MLB roster, which would be subtracted from New York’s obligations.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 4:34 pm to Floating Change Up
Didn't realize Hicks would only cost the minimum. Yeah bring him in and let him play for us on the Yankees dime.
I think his Orioles numbers are probably optimistic but he's always gotten on base at a decent clip.
I think his Orioles numbers are probably optimistic but he's always gotten on base at a decent clip.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:58 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Looks like we will wait for deadline to add LH OFer/1B
Joc signed a 1 year deal with a mutual option with Dbacks
Seems like if we were overly concerned about it, we could have done that deal
Joc signed a 1 year deal with a mutual option with Dbacks
Seems like if we were overly concerned about it, we could have done that deal
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:50 pm to wahoocs
I'd still go after Hicks for league minimum. He's preferable to Jake IMO. But apparently there's some thought within the organization that Loperfido or even Melton will be ready at some point this year.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:16 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Hicks would be a great addition in my opinion. Very low risk potential medium reward
I think Loperfido will be up this year but I’d be surprised if he starts the year in the majors. This gives you a bench option (or everyday guy because I agree I think he’s better than Jake) who can slot into the bench or a platoon spot if Loperfido establishes himself. Hicks has traditionally hit well from the RH side of the plate
I think Loperfido will be up this year but I’d be surprised if he starts the year in the majors. This gives you a bench option (or everyday guy because I agree I think he’s better than Jake) who can slot into the bench or a platoon spot if Loperfido establishes himself. Hicks has traditionally hit well from the RH side of the plate
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:02 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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there's some thought within the organization that Loperfido or even Melton will be ready at some point this year.
It's the right approach. Throw Kenedy COVID-19 into the mix as well. Need the roster spot and at-bats free to see if these guys can play.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:49 pm to wahoocs
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You guys are delusional or just pulling each other’s legs
Altuve would have to have a career ending injury
He holds or will hold almost every offensive playoff record in history when he’s done
I could see some backlash if he were an a-hole, but he’s genuinely kind and loved by all players
I’ll take any odds, Vegas or anywhere else
You give a-hole, east coast writers way too much credit. They will hold 2017 against every single Astro player for the rest of their careers...unless they leave and go play for the Yankees or Dodgers. Then it will magically disappears. Even through there is much proof that Altuve was completely against the whole thing, they will not vote for Altuve.
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