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re: Dale Earnhardt was killed 19 years ago today. The final accident report
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:39 pm to LilDeuceCoupe
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:39 pm to LilDeuceCoupe
Some stories from Jr about swapping cars with his dad during testing, and testing at Talladega for the first time
Jr and Childress reminisce
Jr and Childress reminisce
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:06 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Yes, but we shouldn't get to pick and choose whose autopsy photos to not allow. Yes, I am a fan of NASCAR, been to MIS, and saw the race live on tv when Dale died, and I've met Ken Shrader, Bobby Allison, Darrell Waltrip among others.
The Frances used their influence to keep the photos secret. The Frances have a history of treating drivers like shite and covering up or glossing over safety issues.
The Frances used their influence to keep the photos secret. The Frances have a history of treating drivers like shite and covering up or glossing over safety issues.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:40 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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The Frances used their influence to keep the photos secret
Not entirely true. It was mostly Teresa
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The Florida Legislature's March 29, 2001, law, also known as the Earnhardt Family Protection Act, was sponsored by Daytona Beach's Senator Jim King (R-Jacksonville) and changed Florida's previously long standing and historically open public records laws from that day onward. The Earnhardt law deemed Florida's medical examination autopsy photographs, video, and audio recordings exempt from public inspection without the express permission from applicable next of kin.
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Three days later, Teresa Earnhardt filed a legal brief in the Circuit Court of the Seventh Judicial Circuit, in and for Volusia County, Florida (Case No. 2001-30373-CICI Div. 32).[50] Once the complaint was filed, the medical examiner's office was barred from releasing the public records, including autopsy photographs, pertaining to Earnhardt, until a formal hearing on the merits of Teresa Earnhardt's case could be heard.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 7:42 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:56 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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The Frances used their influence to keep the photos secret. The Frances have a history of treating drivers like shite and covering up or glossing over safety issues.
No, the courts sealed them.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:20 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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We should be able to see the autopsy photos. They are public record. Our tax dollars were spent to do the autopsy and we should see the photos.
This is stupid, even for you. Geez.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:33 am to McCaigBro69
Do you always have to reference your age?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:37 am to SavageOrangeJug
Sad day it was but that's a long arse & expensive report when the simple truth is he hit a wall at 190 mph in a car. The outcome of that event should be rather obvious.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:39 am to Crow Pie
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but that's a long arse & expensive report when the simple truth is he hit a wall at 190 mph in a car. The outcome of that event should be rather obvious.
what a dumbass statement.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:11 am to VinegarStrokes
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what a dumbass statement.
quote:Yes..the rare auto fatality.
Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 9:31 am to Crow Pie
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Yes..the rare auto fatality.
If you think the purpose of the report is to simply determine that the accident caused a death, then I stand by my statement.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:47 am to Crow Pie
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Sad day it was but that's a long arse & expensive report when the simple truth is he hit a wall at 190 mph in a car. The outcome of that event should be rather obvious.
To be fair, the last 130 pages were the CV’s of the people who built the report.
Re: obvious outcome... Dale Earnhardt was the last on track death in NASCAR, so something good came out of it.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:33 am to Crow Pie
1.25 million a year????? I don't believe that. No way it's that high.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:47 am to Crow Pie
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Sad day it was but that's a long arse & expensive report when the simple truth is he hit a wall at 190 mph in a car. The outcome of that event should be rather obvious.
The point of the study and report was to determine exactly what occurred with the impact and inside the car when the car hit the wall. Obviously the car hitting the wall at that speed, is what killed him, but the goal was to know exactly what went on so that safety could be improved. To do that, they needed to know the force at which the car hit the wall, how Dale moved inside the car on impact, what failed in the car, etc.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:55 am to Roll Tide Ravens
But he didn't hit the wall head on. He hit the wall with his right headlight. Now I know he was going very fast but it amazes me that I have seen way worse crashes before this one that made me get out of my chair and say oh shite. I truly thought he was ok....
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:01 pm to dukke v
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But he didn't hit the wall head on. He hit the wall with his right headlight. Now I know he was going very fast but it amazes me that I have seen way worse crashes before this one that made me get out of my chair and say oh shite. I truly thought he was ok....
Most clips make it hard to tell how truly fast he hit the wall and how truly sudden the stop was. His crash may not have been "head on" but it was pretty close to it. When he came back up the track and collected Ken Schrader, Schrader's car turned Dale even more toward a head on hit with the wall.
If you watch this video (which should begin at the 3:00 minute mark), you will see the clip that starts at 3:00. That to me is the most telling clip from his crash.
YouTube
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:31 pm to MikeD
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Re: obvious outcome... Dale Earnhardt was the last on track death in NASCAR, so something good came out of it.
Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin and Dale all died within a year of each other I think. Crazy to think about
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:31 pm to AlbertMeansWell
I was in a hotel in Chicago watching the race with my boss, he'd never watched one live before. We were watching and when I saw Schrader's reaction at the car I knew Earnhardt was gone. Every now and then someone will try to ask Schrader about it and you can see it in his reaction that he will never be able to talk about it.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:02 pm to TT9
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forever remember him going crazy motioning the first responders over there as soon as he seen Dale.
Yep, you knew right away something was wrong.
Given How Shrader acted, The DR. on scene stating that is was very apparent that Dale had a Basilar skull fracture and pics from inside the car (blood in seat/roll cage/on seatbelts)...it was a horrific bloody scene and understand why Shrader still acts the way he does when asked about it.
It didn't look bad when he hit the wall, but the bad wrecks are actually what you want...you want the car absorbing the energy...Dale absorbed all of it, how many negative Gs?
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:08 pm to dukke v
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But he didn't hit the wall head on. He hit the wall with his right headlight. Now I know he was going very fast but it amazes me that I have seen way worse crashes before this one that made me get out of my chair and say oh shite. I truly thought he was ok....
You can look at a ton of crashes, plenty to choose from. But the wrecks/crashes where the car is tumbling/flipping, is actual what you would want compared to Dales wreck. Look up his Talladega crash in the 90s. Yes, he was hurt, they didn't have a lot of safety equipment, but wrecks like that, the car is absorbing most of the energy. At Daytone, Dale absorbed most of the energy in one hit.
I think they calculated he went from traveling at 165-170mph to 43mph in a fraction of a second.
Even if his seatbelt hadn't failed and didn't smash his head/face into the steering wheel, he was going to be severely hurt
Posted on 2/19/20 at 3:20 pm to dukke v
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1.25 million a year????? I don't believe that. No way it's that high.
That is globally. In the USA, over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year or about 100 per day. An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled annually. My point was that we knew the seat belt failed when he hit a wall at 190 mph in a freak accident that sadly cost The Intimidater his life.
Yes the detail of the report was valuable in understanding and prevention of crashes but for me, NASCAR died that day. Bye Bye Mr American Pie.
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