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re: Cristiano Ronaldo accuser spells out rape claims and the events that followed in detail

Posted on 10/3/18 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Why is Christiano Ronaldo the first person I've ever seen that we feel the need to use the kid gloves and give him an out for rape?

Sounds like rape, but he's not a monster...when have we ever said that before


I’m a soccer guy, but I don’t like CR and never have.

I just understand what seems to have happened. The way she says he acted plus the way he talked of the incident makes me think he truly felt bad about doing that to her and that he probably didn’t set out to do anything terrible.

It’s not like he roams the streets and brutalizes women in dark alleys. If you think there’s no difference between that and this, that’s your opinion.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 2:49 pm to
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he truly felt bad about doing that to her and that he probably didn’t set out to do anything terrible.

He raped her. He didn’t trip and fall and miraculously his dick penetrated her for five minutes straight. The whole 99% to 1% thing gives away the mens rea aspect of deciding the criminality of this matter.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 3:42 pm to
He clearly knew she didn’t want to participate in the sex yet still made the conscious decision to stick his dick in her a-hole. That’s rape in all civilized countries.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 3:48 pm to
Every single guy who has ever caught for raping someone tries to claim they are sorry. Ronaldo isn't sorry about raping her. He is just sorry he might get in trouble.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 4:59 pm to
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I just understand what seems to have happened.
Me too, he raped her according to his own words

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the way he talked of the incident makes me think he truly felt bad about doing that to her
Maybe. Or maybe that's just the thing you say when you get caught but you don't actually feel bad. Who knows.

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It’s not like he roams the streets and brutalizes women in dark alleys. If you think there’s no difference between that and this, that’s your opinion.
Maybe there are varying degrees of rape, I don't know. But I'd hardly think that means I can "understand" what happened here and how he just accidentally raped a chick.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 5:10 pm to
Perhaps she needs some therapy and analysis after such a horrific incident.

This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 5:11 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Me too, he raped her according to his own words


But you posted this

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Yea, I asked the same questions earlier in this thread, but a couple of posters seem to think it's legit...not that that makes it so, just pointing out.


Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 7:12 pm to
And he's also denied her rape allegations as well. And he can regret a sexual encounter without it being rape.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 7:12 pm to
Well. . . Soccer
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:21 am to
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Yea, I asked the same questions earlier in this thread, but a couple of posters seem to think it's legit...not that that makes it so, just pointing out.
This is the most glaring, but this is one of the few things that makes me a least skeptical of the reporting.

It’s a communication between two lawyers in a law firm representing him, and an additional “colleague.” Things that are odd or unclear:

1. Is a colleague another lawyer in the firm whose communication may be privileged?

2. Why not identify either colleague or the sender, especially the sender since that seems important?

3. How did they get this communication, especially if it’s privileged, bringing it back to the nameless people in that email?

3. Was it an attached document actually written by Ronaldo, or was it written by someone else, possibly the other lawyer?

4. Given the questionable release of it, the lack of information about the other parties in the exchange, the questionable practice of sending information like that in writing, and still have it easily available to access nearly 10 years later, due the authenticate it?

I know it’s a well-respected outlet, but given the importance of that document and the seriousness of its claims, it seems like subpar journalism to not do everything to make it as unquestionable as possible.

I also find it inexcusable for them to not try to reach out to LVPD to get a comment about the serious claim that why officer discouraged her from moving forward. And the identification of the officer who completed the interview is probably accessible, and if it’s not, they make no mention of even trying to obtain. They just quote her description of him and that’s it, even though the had no problem reaching out to get the original police report.

And what about the rape kit. Did they even try to see if one was done, or what the results were, whether they can release it or not? Again they just quote her about nurse being empathetic, and fail to follow-up on that.

And why mock Ronaldo for not following through on his lawsuit? Maybe that’s a cultural difference, but it seems unprofessional given the seriousness of the story. On top of the lack of due diligence to even verify basic information and instead takes the accusers story as fact, it just seems like the article was trying to tell a version that made him look as guilty and as bad as possible, rather than seeking the truth, even if it ends up being completely true.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:27 am to
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He clearly knew she didn’t want to participate in the sex yet still made the conscious decision to stick his dick in her a-hole. That’s rape in all civilized countries.
Yeah. As presented, it’s clearly rape if true. But I’m just really bothered by the journalism of that story, and how it presented compelling smoking gun evidence yet deceptively didn’t actually present much of it at all and instead tells us it exists.

I mean if he admitted to rape, and they have the document, why not post the document, instead of wasting time mocking his threat of a lawsuit—which happens all the time in these situations, whether true or not?

This is the type of journalism that really bothers me. They do enough, or present enough, to make a compelling and convincing story, clearly showing they’re capable of investigating claims. Yet, they unnecessarily fail to present or investigate the information that would make the convincingness of the story’s presentation irrelevant since the evidence would speak for itself.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 12:34 am
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
24974 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 1:43 am to
I'm sure he's bi but I think he prefers men. But rape is about power and that's why rich and famous people do it and often get away with it. I just hope the truth comes out and whichever part is lying faces due punishment.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6878 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 2:11 am to
Go to the DA not the media, spare us
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