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re: Cris Carter nails where Shedeur went wrong
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:23 am to Jaydenbetter
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:23 am to Jaydenbetter
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Must be exhausting to believe what they did to Colin had nothing to do with race .
He was given plenty of opportunities while black and not trying to be annoying as a protest icon. He just sucked by that point in his career and was a distraction nobody wanted to deal with.
Compare that to a Teddy Bridgewater, who didn't live up to the hype and is also black, who can take few years off and come back because he accepts his role as a backup and doesn't rock the boat. Hell, Jameis is in this tier now and keeps getting jobs even being black with a big personality (and some skeletons in the closet).
Race had nothing to do with Kaepernick
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:43 am to Geauxldilocks
IMO this speaks more to the NFL not believing that Sanders talent at QB is where he and Deion thinks and media prognogistators think.
The NFL has proven time and time again they are willing to overlook a lot of BS drama and even some criminal behaviour if you are talented enough to help them win.
The NFL clearly does not believe that Sanders has the physical and/or mental talent to warrant the BS drama and headache that will come with drafting him early. I do not believe for one second that NFL GMs and executives collectively said "Let's show this punk a lesson about who's the boss."
The NFL has proven time and time again they are willing to overlook a lot of BS drama and even some criminal behaviour if you are talented enough to help them win.
The NFL clearly does not believe that Sanders has the physical and/or mental talent to warrant the BS drama and headache that will come with drafting him early. I do not believe for one second that NFL GMs and executives collectively said "Let's show this punk a lesson about who's the boss."
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:51 am to Snipe
Guys, it is simple. Sanders did not adequately prepare for the interviews that determined where he would go. It is not about race or about talent, it is about his failure to act professional in a setting that requires it.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:52 am to mrsaints
Heisman voting doesn’t mean dick, ever heard of Chris Weinke!?
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:59 am to saints5021
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it is about his failure to act professional in a setting that requires it.
It's a little deeper than that.
You know, these teams scout players for 2,3 and 4 years before they ever get to the draft.
Not preparing for an interview with an NFL executive, or worse yet, telling an NFL executive "Maybe your team isn't the right fit for me" when questioned about poor performances is definitely problematic, but it's just part of a larger body of work put together by the scouting department and player personnel department.
Believe me, if Sanders had high first round talent he would have been drafted high in the first round. NFL coaches and exec's always feel like they can "Fix" peripheral problems as long as the player has franchise level talent.
The clearly do not believe Sanders posses that type of talent.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:35 am to Geauxldilocks
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Cris Carter nails where Shedeur went wrong
Cris Carter
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:49 am to LuckyTiger57
He didn’t learn 1 damn thing in this process because all he and his family keep saying is that they know why he fell down to the 5th round and it’s the devil ( white owners ) Anyone who has seen his continued disbelief he did nothing wrong, knows exactly what will happen to him in the future. Cut !!!
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:56 am to Geauxldilocks
I’m not convinced AT ALL that he understands that today.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:59 am to mrsaints
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There's no logical reason to draft a 26yrs old QB in the 2nd round that's been injured 6 of 7 year in college over, a 23 year old QB that finish 8th in the heisman voting.
The reason is that, all things considered, you give the 26 yo a better chance of being successful.
This confuses you because you give no value to the non-football issues. You are blind to it.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:57 am to mrsaints
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Since the NFL organization needed to humble Shedeur.... let's see how this helps the Saints.
Keep drinking the coolaid.
He didn't workout at the combine. He turned down interviews with teams and some teams he met with felt he was unprofessional and disinterested. Some even said it felt like he was sandbagging their interviews.
The NFL viewed him as a backup and at that point, there is no reason to draft a diva backup higher than day 3.
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This is another example how them folks flex their power. The very reason Colin Kaepernick was blackballed.
Are you retarded? NFL owners want to win. If Shedeur was elite, he'd have been drafted earlier than he was. Antonio Brown got pass after pass because teams want to win. Cap was benched before he started kneeling because he was playing poorly.
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No rookie has it "figured out"
That's his point. The Sanders' thought they could Manning their way to a certain team but Shedeur didn't have Eli talent. Also, the Mannings were called out for that BS in '04.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:13 am to Jaydenbetter
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Must be exhausting to believe what they did to Colin had nothing to do with race .
Remember when Kap did workouts for NFL teams and changed the venue on all of them last minute after Hue Jackson (black man) put it together and was going to lead it? Remember that? Thats called sandbagging. He didn't want an NFL job, he wanted to bitch about not having one and blame race because he made more money doing that than being a backup.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:17 am to mrsaints
here ya go, have a 106th downvote
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:30 am to Shaq4prez
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here ya go, have a 106th downvote
Mrsaints is thinking every one of those downvotes is because they’re racist.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:35 am to Midget Death Squad
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Midget Death Squad
It must be exhausting going through life thinking everything is racist. I can’t imagine being so miserable.
I never said it was racism, I said the NFL owners colluded to embarrass Shedeur Sanders .
However, by your avatar I can see you are a 100% racist. I can imagine how miserable you feel knowing that the USA' whole governing system is designed to give you privileges and the best positions without any effort on your part. Now, the oligarchs are requiring you to work and toil for a living and you looking around dumbfounded and emotionally unstable. Finding pleasure in life as a hater and blaming powerless minorities for your miserable life.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:43 am to mrsaints
Troll on pip squeak
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:43 am to mrsaints
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However, by your avatar I can see you are a 100% racist.
Race baiting again.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
What he did during the process was unprecedented. Apparently he's the chosen son of a cult leader and truly thought he was a paradigm changer for the NFL and he could dictate how to run teams to GMs/owners. He was that delusional.
None of the other guys you listed did that. Cam Ward didn't do that. Jalen Milroe didn't do that. Dillon Gabriel didn't do that.
Archie Manning refused to allow Eli Manning to interview or play for any of the 31 teams in the NFL. He orchestrated a day one trade to the New York Giants. The League quickly cooperated and gave the Manning family everything they asked for. Again a system that colludes for the ones they favor. Its a huge double standard but lets pretend like someone with 32 felony convictions can one day be the president of Amerikkk
Google AI
The Trade:
The Chargers, having the first overall pick, selected Manning. Manning then refused to play for the Chargers, leading to a trade that saw the New York Giants acquire Manning and a 2004 third-round pick, 2005 first-round pick, and 2005 fifth-round pick in exchange for Philip Rivers, who the Giants drafted fourth overall.
The Controversy:
Manning's refusal to play for the Chargers sparked controversy, as it was a rare event for a top draft pick to dictate where they would play.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:39 pm to mrsaints
You are a stone cold liar.
Eli said it was his decision with Condon his agent. Who guess what...was the agent for the HC and Drew Brees. They relayed to the Dolts that he didn't want them to draft him before the draft.
The Bolts were seen as a bad place for qbs. Drew got screwed and the pick before was Ryan Leaf.
Show proof he didn't do any pre draft processes or interviews.
Eli said it was his decision with Condon his agent. Who guess what...was the agent for the HC and Drew Brees. They relayed to the Dolts that he didn't want them to draft him before the draft.
The Bolts were seen as a bad place for qbs. Drew got screwed and the pick before was Ryan Leaf.
Show proof he didn't do any pre draft processes or interviews.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:41 pm to Snipe
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Believe me, if Sanders had high first round talent
Only 2 maybe 3 people had him rated as first round: Dion, shedeur and maybe Shiloh.
The one I find hilarious is Shiloh. His daddy was an all world corner, he played corner and went undrafted
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:45 pm to Snipe
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The NFL clearly does not believe that Sanders has the physical and/or mental talent to warrant the BS drama and headache that will come with drafting him early. I do not believe for one second that NFL GMs and executives collectively said "Let's show this punk a lesson about who's the boss."
He’s like a chick who is a solid 5-6 in the face and a pretty good body who was like a damn wildcat in the sack. Only problem is she’s bat shite crazy everywhere else and a 5 isn’t worth the clingy nature, mood swings, weirdness, sobbing out the blue, etc.
Now if she was a 9.5 you’d probably put up with this for a bit longer because man you feel really good about yourself having an elite level prospect.
But not for a 5. Whatever talents are there just aren’t worth the craziness.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 12:46 pm
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